The Future EU Army

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by James Knapp, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. MMC

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    Depends on how much mismanagement and incompetence there is. Which apparently, there is quite a bit of that going on over there.
     
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    MMC ... in all honor what do you want at least?
    Nearly everything you blame us here for is refuted! You told first that we are not able to build any nuclear weapon what was not only by me refuted! Now you insist on the never disputed point that we are not one of the possible top producers? Sorry, but so what?
     
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    Why wouldn't they be? There is no reason men that age should not be available in the reserve. Train everyone at 19, and keep some in active reserve and the rest in the reserves. It is not a new and radical idea, but old and tested. Besides, even the age group you mention is quite large, and 25 is very young. Even in US you can still enter service much older than that.
     
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    Macron was referring to cyber security when he mentioned US as a threat.

    Unfortunately now France is saying EU needs to unite financially to defend against US economically. It is sad the relations have deteriorated so much so fast. The trade war will hurt both sides.
     
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    It is somewhat irrelevant, because you don't need that many to have credible threat.
     
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    Show me where I said Germany couldn't build Nukes.

    You know the drill....I'll wait.

    Oh and I was allowing you to validate that Germany wasn't in the top 5 to your fellow countryman. Who just isn't as informed as you claim to be.
     
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    Says the one with non functional aircraft Carriers and grounded F35
     
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    Why true.....one still has to be able to have the means to launch one successfully. Ask Lil Kim.
     
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    Says the one that has several working Aircraft carriers. Plus a fleet of Subs that can deliver like Dominoes Pizza.

    Let us know.....when Germany has just one.
     
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    We have 8 which are all send at yard at Same time. You do know that i find our defense Minister pathetisc right?
     
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    We have the means to launch them. We haul Cargo into Space
     
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    You do? Link that up for us.
     
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    You have 8 Aircraft Carriers? Link that up for us. As when I look up the German Navy. It doesn't show they have one Aircraft Carrier.
     
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    Perhaps the US is a diplomatic threat, though the meaning is unclear, but certainly not a military threat.
     
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    Short distance. You can fire them from artillery, drop them from planes or use something like Tomahawk missiles.
     
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    The German Air Force Is Falling to Pieces | War Is Boring
    https://warisboring.com/germanys-air-force-is-falling-to-pieces
    The Tornados are the planes Germany uses as the delivery system for U.S. tactical nuclear weapons in the country. If anything, Germany’s Eurofighters are in even worse shape. In May 2018, the German magazine Der Spiegel reported that only four of Germany’s Eurofighters were ready for combat.


    German Air Force Only Has Four Combat-Ready Jets In Case ...
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-03/german-air-force-only...
    By the end of 2017, all Germany's submarines were in drydock for repairs, while in recent months there have been periods where none of the air force's 14 A400M transport planes were airworthy. The report also found wider problems in Luftwaffe.




    Looks like they will need to use the artillery method.
     
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    Fact #1
    These Tornados chosen to deliver US tactical nuclear bombs are always redy to combat! Others not... but the Tornado itself is not an outdated jet if you want to say this...
    Fact #2
    Yes, the Typhoons of the German Air Force had a major problem ... please note HAD and not yet HAVE! It. was a technical problem of an important board system. This is solved!
    Correct is that the maintenance time on ground of the jets per flight hour are too high, but this is a general problem of the jet itself and all users of the jet ... and the US had these problems in the past with all jets too and still has the same problem with the F-22 and F-35!



    Correct and the only real scandal ...
    The A400M transport plane is simply crap - point! It has to much problems but as in every country there are problems of political reason why crappy material is bought and not better foreign stuff like the latest C-130 Hercules for example!
    The USA are a good example for it too ... their fleet of tank planes of Boing 707 origin had to be modernized with a new plane. Airbus won this competition clear against Boing and their KC-45 what is a Boing 767 and everyone still tells Aitbus had the better plane ... but the US politics invened and Boing was declared to have won - against the will of the US Air Force.

    And about the submarines, only the half truth was told. Israel use these subs too and very succesful. Their need for spare parts was done by scrapping the German Navy subs and this is a political scandal but no core problem of German Navy!
     
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    I am pretty sure the atomic-artillery has been replaced with smaller missiles.
     
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    I'm sure were really really worried. :roll:
     
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    Gee, I wonder why the UK wouldn't why a huge European army? It's not like that's ever caused them a problem before!
     
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    Germany’s Typhoon problem: Only four fighters can be made ...
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/05/germanys-typhoon...
    In fact, only 10 aircraft currently have all their systems functioning, because of a problem that has plagued the defensive aid subsystem (DASS) of Germany's version of the Typhoon.


    Oh, and that A400 m is shared with the Netherlands, isn't it?
     
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    What, me worry?

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    We have 8 submarines. You obviously cant understand english.
     
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    While posting all this stuff about our current incompetent lame duck government, i wonder what you try to say?

    What is your image about german technology and abilities. I would like to know. You do realize that Germany is a high tech country.

    You do realize that our military was cannibalized and cut down into the state it has now?

    You do realize that this has nothing to do with german abilities? The idea that you claimed that building a nuclear bomb or a delivery system would be problematic for Germany is laughable.

    Germany belongs to the top 4 weapon producers in the world. Our defense industry is worldclass.

    Unfortunately we have a weak bitch as chancellor. A women is always weak and never a good leader. This will change soon, until then it is like it is.
     

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