The Germans' Unfriendliness Problem

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  1. ibshambat

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    For a number of years I lived on the Magnetic Island near the Great Barrier Reef in Australia. There were many young tourists there from Germany. I noticed that they were smart, articulate and in excellent physical shape; but they did not appear friendly to me.

    There were also young people there from Sweden and Netherlands. They had the positive qualities that the Germans had, but they were also friendly.

    German culture appears to demand a lot of people. But one thing that it does not appear to demand is being a kind person. The result is people who have many impressive traits, but who are not all that good to other people.

    Of course the Germans and the Jews have a very long and ugly history. I however bear German people no ill will. I want to see every place in the world fix its problems and improve. In case of the German culture, it appears to be this unfriendliness that is their greatest problem. That is off-putting to other people and gets German people accused of being arrogant and mean-spirited.

    Maybe they are of the opinion that anyone who does not demand of himself what they demand of themselves is a lower form of life. However with any number of others – including the Swedes and the Dutch – I have seen people demanding a lot of themselves as well without being unfriendly. Most of the women with whom I had romantic relationships demanded a lot of themselves. However they also put in significant effort into reaching out to others and being good to others. That was even the case with all sorts of people who bore them ill will.

    If the Germans are of the opinion that demanding a lot of themselves justifies them in being bad to other people, then the Swedes and the Dutch are a repudiation of that claim. They likewise are smart, articulate and in excellent physical shape; but they encourage being good to others. I suppose the Germans' unfriendliness problem is matched by the Russians and the French. And in all cases this attitude works against them. People all over the world hate the French, and many continue equating Germans with their conduct seven decades ago even though by now the Germans should have acquired a better reputation based on their more recent acts.

    I have heard it said by an American who has traveled extensively in Germany that German men are *******s. I do not know if all of them are, but I have known some who definitely were just that. There was a German-descended man who would make his wife spend six hours a day cleaning their huge house and then come at her with fists if she left a speck of dust on the floor. There was another who told his daughter's boyfriend that it was OK to hit her. This kind of behavior does not lead to positive repute for German people.

    Germans of course have many impressive accomplishments in their history. The recent trend toward Nazism and suchlike is completely misguided. Germany has many real achievements to look back to, and ones that are being achieved now. The German people do not need to look back to the worst time in their history. As for the Americans who have become a part of the trend, the correct response is to see them as traitors. Their grandparents died fighting the Nazis. In joining things such as Nazism, they are betraying their country. One cannot claim to be an American patriot or anything of the sort if he is supporting an ideology that his grandparents died fighting.

    So if the German people want to improve their reputation, they will do more to encourage friendly behavior. Once again, there is nothing contradictory between such a thing and demanding a lot of oneself. Jesus Christ was greater than anyone in Germany or anywhere else, but He did not behave in an arrogant or off-putting manner. It is possible both to nurture excellence and kind behavior. And in this the Germans have things to learn from the Swedes and the Dutch.
     
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    There is a German on the forum who claims that WalMart was basically run out of Germany by boycott because WalMart has their employees smile, and he claimed in Germany only gay men smile at other men. Thus, German men concluded they were being flirted with by homosexuals in WalMart because they smiled - and German men don't smile at each other.
     
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    Where you met an unfriendly German beause the theme here is "The Germans' Unfriendliness Problem"

    Yeah.

    Never trust in green skinned Germans with antennas on the head.

    Because this makes Germans angry, I guess.

    1933-1945 is not long.

    ¿Mean-spirited? ... Ah got it: "hinterfotzig" .. The german word for mean-spirited is indeed very mean-spirited.

    Most of the women ... Hmm ... Are you in her crosshair? Bad luck.

    No wonder. Their languages are much more funny.

    Germans love France and French. It's a three-way relation.

    Aha. I don't dare to deny this.

    Not a problem which a gun in the hands of his wife is not able to solve.

    I miss the accessory sentenced ",if you like to do suicide or to be hanged from me."

    If think about now: You are right. Germans are indeed not very friendly sometimes. How comes in your case?

    I'm deeply moved that you care about the reputation of Germans.

    ¿Traitors? ... Who? ...

    Your grandparents did not die fighting the Nazis? ... That's the way it is: The heroes die and the opposite survives.

    Reputation? Germans do have reputation? How much is a pound of it?

    Let me think ... still thinking ... ... one moment ... ... ... Okay. You are right: No German except Jesus is true god from true god. He's indeed still the greatest German.

    You should not be so upset. Not everyone is able to be as friendly as you are. Most people have prejudices.

     
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    I've always been seen as an alien as well.

    A lot of that was going on before Hitler.

    They love France so much that they keep invading it.

    In most such situations the man would take the gun away.

    It seems a pattern from what I see.

    I mean the neo-Nazis such as ones that demonstrated in Charlottesville.


    Yeah, but it works for the better if people are more friendly.
     
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    I don't think so. The concept "Wal-Mart" works not in Germany. But the concepts "Lidl" and "Aldi" work in the USA - which was the answer. A "boycott" happens automatically in Germany when for example someone tries to do the people the favor to fill plastic bags with the bought goods. Such a nice behavior drives here nearly everyone crazy. And "not to smile" has in Germany normally nothing to do with homo- or heterosexuality. Why to smile if you meet someone whom you don't know and you did not like to meet?

     
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    Wow, talk about stereotyping a whole group of people.
     
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    Jews were Germans like all others before Hitler came.

    "Invaded" is a big word for some parachutists who showed the French nation that a Mexican wall helps nothing if someone tries to defend the own country.

    Your German is not very good. The German sentence is "the dead man tried to take the gun away".

    Germans demonstrated not in Charlottesville.

    For a knifeman maybe or for a poisoner - not for someone who is used to work with a tomahawk.

     
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    There was a German neighborhood in my city for many decades. The two big wars WWI and II stirred a great deal of anti German sentiment, nationally and of course locally. Social pressure and condemnation made people move out of the city, some even changing their names. So the neighborhood dissolved.

    America has a great deal of German immigrants, and the, at least partial marginalization of these creative and patriotic people here in the US is a sad and untold story.
     

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