I could go through that article and pick it apart line by line, perhaps I will later. It also claims the parties switched sometime between 1860 and 1936. That is a period of 76 years. The author couldn't narrow it down to a smaller time period? Why? What about Woodrow Wilson (March 4, 1913 – March 4, 1921)? He was a liberal as well. He segregated the federal government. He showed the first movie at the White House, Birth of a Nation, a pro-KKK movie which was a major recruiting tool for the Klan and lead to its greatest membership numbers in American history. From 1860 to the 1970's, republicans always had civil rights in their platforms, the democrats never did until 1960. Even in 1956, their platform was pro-segregation. The article, as I re-read it, is simplistic and amateurish. It presents the republican party as the party of big government (never stating why it was) but is careful not to call them liberals, because they weren't. It also does not explain why once the democrat party became the party of big government (under FDR and ignoring Wilson) it was the party of racism against blacks and other minorities. In fact, the article doesn't mention the issue of race at all. So you go back and find me these conservative racists. Still waiting.
I already did. I showed you statistics revealing that a large portion of the Republican Party views Obama as a domestic enemy of some sort which is covert racism. The racism of the Republican Party has been known for years but it reached its zenith during the Presidency of Obama. Conservative Republicans demonstrate everyday that many of them are racists and bigots based on their political views. Your position is as ridiculous as denying that the sky is blue.
Which facts did I ignore? You are the one ignoring facts. I've proved the democrat party were racists, and they were liberals. I've proved republicans were pro-civil rights and conservative. You haven't even disputed these facts, why? Because they are irrefutable.
Strange you could not find anything newer than 1964 and that had to do with the civil rights act which many Repubs these days would like to see repealed. So sorry we are in the 21st Century now and Blacks know who has been standing by them and who has attacked them over and over, they do not need anyone to explain to them who their friends are and who they are not. The Democrats are not the same Democrats of the 18th and 19th century and the Repubs are not the same Republicans form that time frame, time for you to move on to the 21st Century.
Thank you for your input Casper. If you had taken the time to read the thread, you would see I have listed accomplishments of the Republican Party since 1964 in these posts: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&p=1064382753#post1064382753 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&p=1064382873#post1064382873 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&p=1064382939#post1064382939 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&p=1064382983#post1064382983 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=4&p=1064392311#post1064392311 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=4&p=1064392350#post1064392350 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=4&p=1064392412#post1064392412 Name one republican who has said they wanted to repeal Civil Rights. In fact, George H.W. Bush signed the 1991 Civil Rights Act. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=20258 George W. Bush signed an extension to the Voting Rights Act http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/07/20060727.html Democrats and Obama have been apposed to school choice for poor blacks while republicans continue to support it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...t-threaten-veto/2011/03/29/AFjOO0wB_blog.html Democrat racism against black republicans: http://cache.trustedpartner.com/doc...ocrat Racism Against Black Republicans3.pdf Blacks call for mass exodus from the democrat party. [video=youtube;7_FrySY8oYM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_FrySY8oYM&feature=share[/video] Democrats did not switch sides on racism: http://cache.trustedpartner.com/doc...TS% 20DID NOT SWITCH SIDES%2 0ON RACISM.pdf Sure we are. We are the party that is for freedom for all. We are for liberty. We are the party believes in the individual. Democrats are for government, not for the people.
Sure, no problem, should be fun watching all those Black people running out vote for Republicans come next month based on all the good things that Cons have said about them and done for them in the last 50 years. Enjoy
The Democratic and Republican parties are in no way like they were 60-70 years ago, this is just a fact. It is an insult to the intelligence of the average African-American voter to suggest that they are supporting a party that does not support their core values. The Republican Party has become ultra conservative and the Democrats are very liberal. Very few White Democrats today are racists. The Democratic Party is more Egalitarian than the Republican Party ever was. Even during the Civil War era men like Abraham Lincoln held the racial prejudices of their day viewing Blacks as mentally inferior and not believing they could be assimilated in to American society because of racial differences and those were the abolitionists! Democrats today promote true equality and freedom. Most of the Blacks who are Republicans are either ultra conservative or support big business.
Yes, all the accomplishments that I just listed. All the accomplishments that you cannot refute. It may take some time, but blacks are beginning to wake up to the fact that the media and the democrats have been lying to them for the last 50 years. Here is proof that the media is lying to you about the Tea Party being racists: Here is a speech by a black minister at a Tea Party rally. You know the Tea Party that the democrats claim is a racist movement: [video=youtube;IOURiyy_6XA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOURiyy_6XA[/video] Here's a video of racist SEIU democrats attacking a black man and using racial epithets (the N-word) at a town hall meeting attended by the Tea Party: [video=youtube;Wr_4ZWEFOjQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr_4ZWEFOjQ[/video] Here's Kenneth Gladney at a Tea Party rally talking about the racist SEIU thugs and Obama supporting democrats that attacked him: [video=youtube;UETLveuFPsE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETLveuFPsE[/video] Here are members of the Crispus Attucks Brigade and other blacks and hispanics at a multi-racial Tea Party event in Sacramento: [video=youtube;lSpuMAkhu8E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSpuMAkhu8E[/video] So the liberal media will tell you the Tea Party is racist, when in fact there are many people of different races that regularly attend these meetings.
I proved that the parties switched platforms. You have not provided counter evidence against this claim. I proved that many Republicans today are racists. You have not refuted that claim. Democrats used to be the conservatives and today they are progressives who are generally not racist.
You should watch the videos I've just posted which show that the democrat party does not support the core values of black Americans. Once again you keep making the claim that the republicans has become conservative when that is what they always were. I've tried posting facts, lists and links which prove my point. You cannot refute them. You have not presented anything to support your position. I've posted videos of racist democrats attacking a black man. I've posted videos because my facts and links seem to go ignored. Here's a great video of Thomas Sowell Dismantles Egalitarianism: [video=youtube;26QxO49Ycx0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QxO49Ycx0[/video]
This is stupid that I have to repeat the argument over and over. Let me break it down once again, line by line, just showing you how you are wrong, simply by providing a link to each post which proves you wrong: No, you did not. You posted a biased article in this post: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=4&p=1064392272#post1064392272 Which I refuted by pointing out it was a vaguely written and void of facts or supporting evidence in this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=6&p=1064396010#post1064396010 Yes, in fact I have: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=6&p=1064397256#post1064397256 In this post you will find a link to this article written by Frances Rice, who is a retired Army Lieutenant Colonel and Chairman of the National Black Republican Association. She may be contacted at: www.NBRA.info: You provided questionable anecdotal evidence that you ascribe to republicans without any proof that it was produced, endorsed or condoned by the republican party. You provided some materials that you attribute to racism, with which others would not agree that it was in fact racism (like using the word "foodstamps"). You've used generalities to describe republicans as covertly racist or using "codewords" without factual evidence to back up your claim: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=6&p=1064396017#post1064396017 I refuted this absurd accusations here: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=6&p=1064396045#post1064396045 Which goes against the evidence that I have provided in the article above (for the second time) and against the evidence I have provided in the previous posts here: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&p=1064382939#post1064382939 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=2&p=1064390930#post1064390930 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=3&p=1064392179#post1064392179 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=4&p=1064392311#post1064392311 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=4&p=1064392350#post1064392350 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=4&p=1064392412#post1064392412 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=5&p=1064395988#post1064395988 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=6&p=1064396010#post1064396010 http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=379320&page=6&p=1064397256#post1064397256 Nine! Nine posts where I have provided irrefutable proof that the parties have not "change sides".
What's stupid is you spouting the same garbage over and over. You have no basis for calling the article biased other than you don't like it. It's a well-known fact that the parties switched platforms and the article simply documents this fact without the author expressing any kind of political opinion. You didn't say anything of substance in that post. THAT article is incredibly biased and ignores the fact that the core values of the Republican Party have changed tremendously since the Civil War. Republican supporters such as yourself are stuck in the past. The parties are very different now. There's a reason why only a handful of Blacks support the Republican party today. It's because those few Blacks are either ultra conservative in their values or support big business over helping the poor. It's very obvious given the political opinions of Republicans that Republican voters created those images or at least far-right conservatives. Some of those images were actually put in signs at Tea Party rallies. I provided statistical evidence that many Republican voters view Obama as a domestic enemy which anyone with any sense can recognize as being motivated by racism. What has Obama done to make so many Republican voters think he's the anti-Christ? Let's test your reasoning skills. Answer that question. Why do so many Republican voters think Obama was born in Kenya when it is a well-documented fact that he was born in Hawaii? That one might not seem racist on the surface but you'd have to assume that many Republican voters are stupid and will fall for anything OR maybe they want to believe Obama was born in another country to disqualify him from the Presidency based on a technicality. Now why would so many Republican voters want Obama to be ineligible for the oval office, hmm? Could it be RACISM?!
I don't want to do point by point right now, it's cumbersome and boring. I've been to Tea Party rallies where there were pictures of Obama looking like Hitler. They were Lyndon La Rouche supporters. Others had confederate flags, they were asked to leave as well. The point is, there are a small percentage of dumbasses in this world, it doesn't mean they represent the GOP or the Tea Party. The first Tea Party I was at there were democrats and independents, blacks and hispanics. People on the fringe we don't defend, we don't have to because they aren't with us. I don't expect democrats to answer for or defend every stupid thing a leftist liberal says either. That would be stupid. But the democrats do have a history of racism and discrimination going back many years, both politicians and policies. We don't. I didn't vote against Obama, I voted for McCain & Romney, because their political beliefs were closer to mine. They are too liberal for me, but better than Obama. If republicans are racist for not voting for Obama, then the democrats are racist for targeting Alan West. And I'll just disagree on the party switching thing once again. Definitely not going into birtherism.
I think we can agree that there is such a thing is the lunatic fringe which represents the extreme views of a political persuasion. The left has its lunatics and the right has its lunatics. But what percentage of American voters believes in total nonsense that makes one question their sanity? I've given you stats from a reliable source showing that MANY not just a fringe few Republican voters actually believe the most ridiculous rumors and smears about President Obama. Party of Nuts: Poll Shows GOP Thinks Obama is Muslim, Socialist Scary New GOP Poll - The Daily Beast
Here is what Mitt Romney promised Black Voters in 2012. Sounds like he'd have been the one we were hoping for when they elected Eboma. Sure sounds good to me. [video=youtube;WAhJh0ADd9k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAhJh0ADd9k[/video]
Now that the election is over, we can see that black voter turnout was up 1% from 2010 (from 11% to 12%) and the GOP gained 4% of the black vote over 2010, from 6% to 10% in 2014. Yep, that was fun. http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2014/11/06/the-gops-huge-10-percent-of-black-vote/ http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/10/2014-GOP-Rout-Wasnt-Quirk-of-Turnout
Which means that 90% of the Black vote still goes to Democrats. A few foolish people voted Republican because they are upset with the current government but all you're ever going to get is that remote few. Update me when a Republican captures the White house. Then we'll have something to talk about.
It's a gradual erosion of support. 1 in 20 voted for GOP in 2010, now it's 1 in 10. Once it's 50/50, dems can't get elected.
That's not going to happen. On the other hand Republicans won't be able to get elected once there are enough Hispanics in this country. The last Presidential election already showed that candidates don't need the White vote to win. The Republican Party has to move to the center on immigration if they have any hope of getting enough of the Hispanic vote to win but by doing so they'll alienate their base. Meanwhile Blacks will continue to overwhelming vote for Democrats which will make a big difference in swing states.
It's really disgusting how non Whites always vote in their racial interest, selfishly voting for free money and non White immigration to the detriment of humanity, in a classic case of Plato's criticism of democracy (morons voting for free public money), but only Whites are ever callled racist, isn't it.
We got 36% of the Hispanic vote. How much of it do you think we will get when President Cruz is elected?
