The Government and MSM Loves Your Apathy !

There are 10’s of millions of people engaged in their daily routines who are totally oblivious to the Fact that there are major concerns, questions and justifiable genuine fear concerning the validity Of the official stories of major events that have occurred in the world. The most recent being 9/11, Sandy Hook, and the Boston Bombing. When efforts are made to raise awareness of the inconsistencies, Anomalies, and the outright physical impossibility of an official story happening the way it was reported, one encounters an extreme form of “APATHY” , that engulfs most people . For example, when I try to tell a friend of mine that over 2200 Architects and engineers have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt That the official story of the collapse of WTC’S 1,2, & 7 can’t possibly be true , he just shrugs his shoulders and says “so what if all that is true how does it affect me, I still have to go to work, pay my bills , and provide for my family I haven’t got time to worry about such things". That’s exactly the attitude the master minds and perpetrators of these events want you to have. They want you to busy trying to make a living to be an informed citizen or activist of any kind which allows them to manipulate you and world events to fulfill their own personal agendas. The truth is , knowing the truth about these events does matter, 9/11 has affected the lives of millions of people and the direction of our foreign policy forever.
People who are aware of what’s really happening have crossed several thresholds, others aren’t even aware of. They know the Government isn’t always honest and have your best interest at heart. They know the MAIN STREAM MEDIA can’t be trusted and often lies to us. Being made aware of these facts makes people very uncomfortable for they think they’re still living in a world where the Government and FREE MAIN STREAM PRESS would never lie to them.
If you’re truly interested in finding out the truth about major events that have happened in the past or recent history THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE and most of the time an investment of only an hour or two will Change your perspective and opinion forever !

 

okay tell us what really happened in New York on 9-11-01 and be specific with evidence.
We are all ears.

 

Is it apathy or that there has been so many far out conspiracy theories on all sorts of subject advance that are so unbelievable and far fetched, people just do not pay any attention to them? I do agree that the MSM can't be trusted especially when it comes to politics. This is why I switch back and forth between Fox and CNN and then usually split the difference.

Most of the conspiracy theories involving JFK have been debunked and proved false. The government held so much secret involving the assassination that they actually help give birth to most of them. But as time went by more and more info became available to the public and more research was done to include testing and going over and over the evidence again that as of today there can be no doubt Oswald was the lone shooter.

9-11 seems pretty cut and dried compared to JFK. Most conspiracy theories surrounding the event are so far out in left field, they just are not believable. There is your apathy.

 

The most recent poll on the JFK assassination showed 81% of the people believes more than one person was involved !

 

Are you saying 81% of the people do not believe Oswald shot JFK? That he wasn't the lone shooter as I stated? I don't think so. I think there are unanswered questions, but I do not believe in the Grassy Knoll shooter or anyone else besides Oswald shot JFK.

 

Queue up the theme to The X-Files.

 

As you're a "Truther" anything we say will be disputed by you, while you blame Bush and exclude William Jefferson Clinton of any culpability in what led up to the al Qaeda attack.

 

No has conclusively established that there was more than one shooter. But conspiracy theories abound like rectums. Everyone has one.

 

I don't want my thread to get moved to the graveyard of the conspiracy section. It is about the Apathy involved when trying to make people understand there just might be another side to the stories being pushed by the Government and the MSM and making them want to at least consider that possibility.
But to answer your question , I'm very experienced with hand guns and rifles and there is no way in hell someone who barely qualified as a marksman (the lowest ranking) in the military could ever pull off those miraculous shots with that piece of chitt rifle he had and what assassin leaves his rifle leaning against the wall of his perch and his brass laying on the floor. There has been only one man in history to achieve these shots in a simulation and it took him three tries and he wasn't under the unimaginable pressure of shooting at the POTUS. !!!!!!

 

I understand that. One of the question left to be answered or left to one's imagination: Was Oswald a patsy or did he do this all on his own? I do not think that will ever be answered.

 

2200 Architects and Enginners have never gotten together to discuss 911 even on a website much less proven anything as you claim. This claim, which has been proven false years ago, comes from the architects and engineers for 911 truth website. This websites offers no proof whatsoever about 911 coverups or inside conspiracies. They do not disprove or even challenge the " official " TRUE account of what happened. In fact the website is open to anyone and it's 2200 members are from every walk of life with few real architects or engineers. They website does not even screen it's members to determine who has training in those fields.

Your entire thread and op is not even a rant. It is just a whine about the fact that most know you are full of delusional nonsense and you arer angry that they are too smart to fall for the conspiracy theory garbage you believe in.

BTW this thread should be moved to the cponspiracy theory section

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It has been answered.

The evidence overwhelmingly proves Oswald shot Kennedy.

Not one speck of evidence of any kind proves or even suggests a second shooter.

 

That is meaningless and irrelevant as consensus does not equal truth.

It is a reasonable statement to say that an intelligent person should listen to both sides of a debate or argument or contoversy before passing judgement.

In the case of JFK very few have bothered to listen to both sides. Most are exposed to conspiracy theory in books, movies, documentaries, Television specials and even pop culture references.

Very few bother to pick up and read the Warren commission report and examine the evidence. If they did they would find first of all that all conspiracy theorists state massive lies about the warren commission itself. Second they would at least be considering both sides.

From what I understand 100 % of all people once believed the earth was flat but it never was. Same thing here most believe something because thats what they are told but they do not bother to check

 

WTF are you talking about?

 

It belongs in that graveyard.

It is not about apathy it is about conpiracy theories disguised as a cry against apathy.

Otherwise you would not have thrown out the example you did which references the absolute LIE about 2200 architects and engineers proving the official story false

 

Your right about the so called apathy. But to each individual whatever theory is put forth it has to be believable in that individual's mind. That is all I am saying. Most of what I read or seen on the 9-11 conspiracy pages do not pass the smell test. They are way too wild for me.

 

Yeah .you'd like it moved because you don't won't to deal with it's truths. It's not my fault if people get off topic. my thread is about the APATHY encountered when trying to make people consider their might be another side to the story they.ve been told and how it could affect their lives and their Country.

 

I agree. Oswald shot Kennedy and perhaps I used patsy wrong. That was probably the word I least wanted to use. Perhaps I should have said who might have put him up to it. Were there other involved egging him on.

 

On that no one can disagree. Oswald took that answer to his grave.

 

It is not apathy at all.

You are claiming that you and some other conspiracy nuts are more in tune with what is going on or more enlightned but this is simply not the case.

People cared deeply about 911 and wanted the truth and GOT IT. There is no evidence of any kind to support any alternative theories.

Once again this is why you had to include the woefully pitiful example of A&Efor 911 truth which has been destroyed long ago

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Despite massive investigation by the government and lesser investigations by conspiracy theorists no evidence has ever been found of anyone else involved.

So no he acted alone and that is that

 

Yes, this is concerning to me also. We trust the official investigators and detectives. But what if they are involved in a cover up?
Would anyone else ever know? The days of independent investigative journalism has been declining. There is a tremendous amount of apathy. If those appointed in government do not do their job, a conspiracy could basically get away with anything.

 

Finally someone who GETS IT !!!!!!

 

I somewhat agree with your concern about trusting the government.

But one must remember that conspiracies never last. Such coverups are always exposed someone always talks or rats out the others or comes clean.

Government can of course engage in conspiracy and coverup ( watergate, gulf of tonkin etc ) but we all see how those coverups ended up. Watergate involved a second rate hotel break in which was badly bungled and ended up destroying a president. The gulf of tonkin may have lasted a little longer and did not ruin LBJ but the truth came out soon enough.

 

Yes and anyone that does the investigative reporting exposing the criminality and corruption on the Left is persecuted, tapped, and spied upon themselves for any that may nullify their reporting.

 

It is not apathy, it is that the American public are cowards and peasants who desire the government to be their rulers instead of the other way around. The patriots who founded this country were brave men, who wanted to be sovereign individuals and to make a place for other people like them.
Instead the serfs and peasants who did not have the courage to come to this land when it was wild, flooded in after it was settled and brought with them the peasant mentality that kept them chattel in Europe. They have neither the character nor the courage to stand for freedom and sovereignty and desire the government to be their masters. We are today a country of frauds and imposters.

 

It's so funny, you rail against people bringing up very valid concerns and questions about the official stories about major events, but admit the Government has been guilty of at least two documented conspiracies( FALSE FLAGS) and somehow conclude that's the only one's they've ever attempted or are guilty of. The facts are there are many, but people are so apathetic they don't care unless they are affected directly. The problem Is they are affected. 9/11 got us the Patriot Act,if people were really aware of the implications of this act they would be terrified . Bonaparte said it best" It's not necessary to bury the truth ,only to delay it until no one cares any longer". It has recently come to light , that many Countries have admitted to carrying out False Flags to gain support from their citizens.Like Rob Emmanuel said" Never let a good crisis go to waste" and I can't prove it, but I'm pretty sure he meant either real or manufactured.