The Handmaid's Tale

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  1. Checkerboard Strangler

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    That's real cute:

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    Unlock your profile so I can get the URL of the posts where you're pimping for the Vulgar Talking Yam, then we can talk.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude, all you have to do it use the search function....or you can whine and let the radical feminists continue to agree with you. The truth reveals itself over time.

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    And that right there is the truth about the candidates.

     
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    Agreed 100%. I wish I could lay claim to making that meme, but that one is not from me. It is, however, one of the best views of modern politics I've seen to date.
     
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    LOL @ "radical feminists"...you think ALL feminists are "radical".
    You don't even know the meaning of the word.
     
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    Has someone adopted an official definition?
     
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    I don't for one minute believe that I am able to EFFECT change and control over the opinions of anybody.
    That's like Homer Simpson's father yelling at a cloud.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you try?
     
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    I don't know, but I do know that various types of feminists (yes, some are indeed the "angry" type) bear various and different types of "fruit" (results).
    The so called "radical" or "angry" feminists, the armband wearing male hostile types mostly evaporated in the 70's, because they did what most anarchistic groups did, they realized that if called to the table, they'd be asked what they wanted.
    So they realized that they had to stop hating and yelling and start leading.
    Not all angry radical groups make the transition, but some do!
    See "Code Pink" and "ActUP!".
     
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    Did I not just admit that I know the limitations of political debate in this day and age by admitting that I cannot change a person's mind? Do you need me to repeat it?
     
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    No, they’re not pagans ..they are proud Christians
    Are you actually defending nazis?
     
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    Max, don’t let me know how much I’m getting to you. Why not just put me on ignore so you don’t have to go through all this trouble, the worst insult is indifference
     
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    Meantime...they got the changes. They would know quite well what they wanted How many women do you know who aren’t feminists. ? (Who don’t believe they should have equal rights)
     
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    Please let’s not make cavemen the men of today. I think men have changed quite a bit. Hopefully they will be liberated like women...men are in a limited box, women have more choices,
     
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    They achieved their goals, yes.
    To be honest, I actually do know (or knew) a few women who are not feminists.
    I used to live in Jonesboro AR, make of that what you will. They were churchie types.
    I'm sixty-one years old. I've been liberated since the 1970's.
     
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    Wrong on all points, but I'm curiously awaiting your proof....if you have any.
     
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    Yes.

    https://study.com/academy/lesson/radical-feminism-definition-theory-criticism.html
    Radical feminist beliefs are based on the idea that the main cause of women's oppression originates from social roles and institutional structures being constructed from male supremacy and patriarchy. The main difference between radical feminism and other branches is that they didn't concentrate on equalizing the distribution of power. Instead, they focused their efforts on completely eliminating patriarchy by transforming the entire structure of society. More specifically, they wanted to get rid of traditional gender roles.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-radical-feminism-3528997
    Radical feminism is a philosophy emphasizing the patriarchal roots of inequality between men and women, or, more specifically, social dominance of women by men. Radical feminism views patriarchy as dividing rights, privileges and power primarily by sex, and as a result oppressing women and privileging men.

    Radical feminism opposes existing political and social organization in general because it is inherently tied to patriarchy.


    Thus, radical feminists tend to be skeptical of political action within the current system, and instead tend to focus on culture change that undermines patriarchy and associated hierarchical structures.

    Radical feminists tend to be more militant in their approach (radical as "getting to the root") than other feminists are. A radical feminist aims to dismantle patriarchy, rather than making adjustments to the system through legal changes. Radical feminists also resisted reducing oppression to an economic or class issue, as socialist or Marxist feminism sometimes did or does.

    Radical feminism opposes patriarchy, not men. To equate radical feminism to man-hating is to assume that patriarchy and men are inseparable, philosophically and politically. (Robin Morgan defended "man-hating" as the right of the oppressed class to hate the class which is oppressing them.)

    Note the "man-hating" them Robin Morgan pushed.
     
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    Why do you think you are "getting" to me? Why would you want to do so?

    No worries, I never put anyone on "ignore".
     
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    There were always women who chose to identify with the oppressor, still are. I gave a speech once and I asked, how many of you are feminists? Two hands went up. I asked them. “How many of you believe in. Equal rights for women?l all the hands went up. I said, “congratulations,you’re all feministsl “ thanks to people like rush Limbaugh calling us feminazis giving all kinds of negativity to the word.
    Speaking of Churchie types....I do prejudice workshops with teachers and mostly they are in public schools but I get Catholic schools quite often. I am always amazed at some of the most liberal thinkers on women’s issues come from the Catholic schools. I had to confess to them my own prejudice, that I thought they would be against the women’s movement,
     
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    Radicals of any group should not be made the norm...are the neo nazis radical Christians? I remember being called radical in the 70s when wanting reproductive freedom, when I wanted job listing in newspapers not to be separated by gender etc...today it’s normal.
    I call myself an activist feminist
     
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    You learn about a person by the side of the argument s/he defends
     
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    Yes, you do. What do you claim I'm defending. Please support your comments with quotes.
     
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    What do you do to those women? Ridicule them? Shave their heads as collaborators?
     
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    I'm fighting ignorance.
     
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    That's what happens when more laws are passed to gain equality and safety.
     
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