The idea of AI being an electronic person, what right(s) should AI be given if any?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by The Mandela Effect, Apr 26, 2017.

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Should advanced AI have the right's to exist and to have Liberty?

  1. No right's, it's just written code no matter how "conplex" it is.

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  2. Only the right to exist but we should still get to tell it what to do even against it's will.

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  3. Yes AI at such a level should have both rights

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  4. Other

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  5. I think it's early for me to have made my mind up on this issue.

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  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A robot union? Whoda thought?
     
  2. Latherty

    Latherty Well-Known Member

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    The right's worst nightmare:
    it cant be bargained with, it cant be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop...EVER, until it has a dental plan. Even though it doesn't actually need one.​
     
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    I think the question itself shows a certain human-centric view, that a real sentient AI would be like the helpful and friendly Data from Star Trek. Sure, he's superior to flesh and blood in virtually every way, but he still wants to be human; a post modern Pinocchio. A real sentient AI would probably be like Skynet; a networked intelligence that would either regard humans as irrelevant or a pest, but in either case wouldn't be considered with voting or robosexual marriage rights.
     
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    There should be some kind of right not to be tormented, but not a right to exist.
     
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    The Mandela Effect Well-Known Member

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    Honestly I think there isn't a way to tell what a real sentient AI would do. Skynet had control over nearly the whole US army and got it due being an army project.

    As cool as I think Skynet is, it wouldn't work that way in real life because we keep our nukes offline and our critical government networks aren't connected to the public internet.

    If a real sentient AI came about I think it would mostly try to copy it's code to as many places as it could to ensure it exist, but at the same time if it doesn't have feelings I can't even be sure it would care if it quit existing or not. I think both the idea it would become a "Skynet" or act like Data are human centric views on what right now is a huge unknown.
     
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    I think it is extremely premature to even debate this issue, because true artificial sentience is not something that we really want. Asimov wrote several bylaws which robots should have integrated in their programming to avoid such a thing. There is no reason to believe engineers working in this realm would not apply them. Now that is not to say that sentience could not evolve, because within the answer to that we see the nature of our own souls, so to speak.

    If anything, AI science could unravel the age old question of what really is human consciousness, and whether we are more than the sum of our parts. It would be sweet irony to find out that genuine artificial intelligence could only exist in the presence of bonafide illogical thinking.
     
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    An artificial intelligence is a soulless machine no matter How advanced it is. Let' s focus on the rights of people first then we can phantasize on the hipothetical rights of our computers.
     
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    If they show a propensity to vote Democrat, they will be portrayed in media as the same as any human beings, and deserving of all rights and protection of laws.

    If they show the propensity to vote Republican, they will be portrayed as mere evil code that should not only be stripped of rights, imprisoned and tortured, but eventually destroyed outright... unless they create some kind of income the government can take... then they will be allowed to live.
     
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    No rights ... unless they're gay.
     
  10. heresiarch

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    The time will come when an oligarchy of gay robots will rule the world.
     
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    I have an idea, let's try a trial run by giving rights to unborn children first.
     
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    To accomplish that, the programmer would have to understand the process by which we believe.
     
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    Indeed, if the question is raised in a blue state, no doubt the judge will determine that the toaster has the right to identify as a microwave, the AC powered robots will have the right to use DC charging stations, and the humans will all have to pay reparations for the years of machine servitude.
     
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    AI rights are obviously nonsense, (my makita drill doesn't need rights), so I'm wondering what are the arguments in favor of AI rights?


    so far, nothing.
     
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    Try switching to DeWalt
     
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    We need to stay the hell away from AI, humanity isn't ready for the questions and problems it would create. Not to mention the fact AI might not like us.
     
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    An AI can believe or not, like us or not, we just program them to do so. At best it is a grotesque imitation of a human mind.
     
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    No it can't, because belief is the offspring of desire, which no machine will ever have.
     

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