The Impeachment of Andrew Johnson and the Missing Seven Words from the Constitution.

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You bring up a good point about having an "inferiority complex".

    It has been my own experience that those who have low self esteem are generally afraid of anyone who is more intelligent than themselves. This fear is displayed as racism among those who are afraid of blacks who are smarter than themselves. Just because people were born into slavery didn't make them stupid and vice versa for those who were born as citizens not making them any smarter.

    So not only was there the "fear of failure" there was the "shame" of "failing" to those that they "deemed" to be "inferior".

    These factors are still in play today, unfortunately.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    Kneejerk denialism of documented reality duly noted FTR!

    :roflol:
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Had those seven words been INCLUDED in the Constitution 150 years there would have been no need for Affirmative Action NOW!

    However BECAUSE they were NOT enacted back then we have to deal with the CONSEQUENCES now.
     
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    Why do you insist on this continued attempt to match wits with unarmed people? You do realize some of these posts you respond to are not worthy of response?
    You should stop trying to teach history and civics to people who get their information from Twitter.

    I don't always agree with you but thanks for this thread. Interesting.
    Rich
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Typical. Can't dispute what was said so you just resort to what many consider as childish responses. Care to try again? Or are you going to continue making these kinds of remarks?

    Tell you what, show one thing that Trump has done that is racist since he's been elected. Just ONE. And if I can't dispute it then I will admit that he's racist. The ball is in your court Derideo_Te. What are you going to do with it? Take it up and play? Or take it home in a pout rage? Your choice.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You are right that I should just ignore those that contribute little of any value to the discussion.

    We can disagree without being disagreeable which is what this forum us all about. :)
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    First off let's establish that your BLOTUS has ALWAYS been a racist POS which you are trying to PRETEND never happened.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

    So NOW let's deal with your BLOTUS's racism DURING his odious regime.

    And then there is these further examples of your BLOTUS's racism during his regime.

    There are still his odious racist policies against Hispanics and Muslims that I have not included so are you going to keep your word or are you just going to PRETEND that your BLOTUS is not a racist in spite of ALL OF THE EVIDENCE that establishes that he is a racist POS!
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Knew you'd bring this up. Trump haters just can't help themselves. Its why I limited my request to since he's been in office. Particular since its so easy to dismiss.

    Tell me, do you think that Robert Byrd was able to change? Or do you think that he was still the KKK's Grand Kleagle or whatever it was to the day he died? I don't. I think he changed and regretted his earlier life. Point is that people can change. So using something from decades in the past to prove that person is the same today as they were then is just silly. You have to base how a person is in the present. Not decades past.

    First lets set something straight, it doesn't matter what other people think Trump did or didn't do. It only matters what he actually did do.

    Next, Trump never spoke on what happened the night before. He only ever talked about what happened the next day.

    Now onto Trumps first remarks: "this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides.” He paused, then repeated: “On many sides.” Was this a false statement? No, it wasn't. He condemned both sides for the hatred, bigotry, and violence. That is a fact. A white supremacist would not do that. They are so blinded that they would only condemn the side that they are against.

    In his second remarks you posted something that admits he wasn't talking about the neo-nazi's and white supremacists and that he condemned them "totally". So that in itself is contrary to your position. And despite what is said in the last paragraph you quote saying "very fine people on both sides" is not a walk back. Can't be a walk back when he never took back the original stance. And Trump was right. There were people there that were not white supremacists or neo-nazi's or Antifa that are "very fine people" in those protests that did not want violence or committed any violence.

    Of course as your quoted part notes they try to make it racist because of two other things.

    One: the claim that comparing the two groups, Antifa vs white supremacists is a "false equivalency". Well, Trump never did that. He just blamed them for the hatred, bigotry, and violence equally. And he was right to do so. Yes, one is worse than the other. But that does not excuse the others actions. Bad is bad. All hatred, bigotry, and violence SHOULD be condemned equally. Neither should be allowed a pass just because the other guy happens to be worse. If two people beat someone up does it really matter that one of them got less kicks in than the other? Of course not. Both of those people should be equally condemned because they both did something bad.

    Two: the claim that David Duke etc loved Trumps remarks (paraphrasing here) and therefore Trump is racist is just plain idiocy. That's like saying that a person 100 miles away is responsible for those two people beating up that other person even though that person 100 miles away is a pacifist in all things. David duke et al has no doubt voted for and supported other Past Presidents. That doesn't mean those past Presidents were racist. While trying to play the false equivalency game they themselves commit a false equivalency with this bs.

    As far as Muslims go: "Muslim" is not a race, its a religion which encompasses over a billion people of all races. So that in its face is rejected simply because of that fact.

    As far as "**** hole countries" goes...umm...hate to break it to you but they ARE **** hole countries. And yeah, Norway is not a **** hole country. Its a 1st world country so kind of obvious that he would prefer a 1st world country over a 3rd world shithole. Particularly since he's a rich guy. In any case, this is talking about nationality. Not race. The only ones that made it about race were those that oppose his immigration policies which are based on the ideology of merit and ability to support oneself.

    As for Puerto Rico vs Texas: Funny how you blame Trump for the amount of assistance that was sent to one vs the other when its Congress that approves such things. Not the President. Not to mention you're comparing one hurricane hit area vs another. PLUS you're also comparing one area which had better infrastructure, and therefore more expensive to replace vs another piss poor infrastructure that was less expensive to replace and harder to get around in. Not to mention a problem with corruption. And yet you think that the amounts should have been the same?

    Again, Muslim is not a race, its a religion with over a billion people that encompasses many races so you're better off not trying to argue that as being racist.

    As far as his policies against Hispanics goes...go for it. I'm waiting. I already even know which examples you will use....

    You have yet to prove that Trump is a racist. You just repeated what others have said. You can't even argue it from your own stance.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for trashing your own credibility and disqualifying yourself on this topic.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    The part that you ignore in my post is "And if I can't dispute it..."

    I disputed it did I not? That you don't agree with my reasoning doesn't change the fact that I certainly DID dispute it. So much so that you have apparently given up because you can't dispute my dispute.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for establishing that your disqualification is justified and your credibility nonexistent.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Do you really think that repeating what you just said will make my statement less true and yours more true? Contrary to popular belief that doesn't really work ya know. ;)
     
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    When one person asks another person to "Prove Trump is a Racist" ...

    ...that is the equivalent of asking someone to "Prove that there is Sand in the Desert".
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    LOL!

    And when they are presented with a desert full of sand they will pretend that there is no sand in the desert because they are blinded by the sandstorm all around them.
     
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    Except of course one is provable, while the other has yet to be proven.
     
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    Still waiting for you to prove Trump is racist. So far all you've done is parrot other people. Is there a reason for this?
     
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    Your disqualification still stands on this topic until further notice and I have no need to repost what was never refuted.

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Never refuted? Are you blind or something? I wrote a nice long post disputing each and every single thing that you quoted. You weren't able to dispute ANY of it. All you've done is ignore it. You're right though, you don't need to repost anything. But it'd be nice if you at least TRIED to dispute what I said. As it stands all that it appears that you can do is run away and quote other people. Can't you think for yourself? Or do you need others to tell you what to say? Is that why all that you've done is quote what others have said and dismiss everything that doesn't parrot those that you parrot yourself? Because all you have is OTHER peoples arguments?
     
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    Kneejerk denialism by BLOTUS supporters does not alter documented reality!
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You're the one denying. Not me. I've put forth a dispute. One that you can't even dispute. Or you would have. Because Trump haters love nothing better than trying to prove others wrong. When they can't they usually either run or cast ad homs, or both.
     
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    The ENTIRE sane and rational world KNOWS that your BLOTUS is a racist POS!

    ONLY his supporter DENY the UGLY TRUTH about his racism.

    There is no point wasting time with BLOTUS supporters because cognitive dissonance prevents them from dealing with the REALITY about their racist BLOTUS.
     
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    You did not respond to his individual counterpoints.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Which ones did I miss?
     
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    Thank you for proving my point.

     
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    Because they have all been previously DEBUNKED!
     

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