The Impossibility of an Invasion of North America.

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Recently on a few other threats a number of members have suggested it was possible for China or Russia to complete an successful invasion of North America.

    Personally I got a good laugh at even the suggestion...but still they persisted.

    Now as far as I am aware...and I am aware of quite a bit....I do not see any possible scenario where any country....any group of countries....or even every other nation on Earth that was not part of North America could in any way complete a conquest of North America.

    Even more than that I do not see any possibility a nation or all nations put together could get within 3000 miles of North America before they were blown out of the water by the U.S. Military.

    Soooo.....anyone care to dispute this?

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    Well say they did get over here and did invade in force they would need to break the nations will to fight and I don't see it likely they could hold the US with Mexico and Canada without a massive force garrison in every city, large town and major waterways. And have a resistance which would likely unleash hell on them. Not to mention the chase we would go down launching our nuclear wrath on them if not given a choice. So unless the invaders are aliens I would say its unlikely we would be invaded.
     
  3. AboveAlpha

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    It's more than unlikely...it's impossible.

    Even if every nation on Earth excluding North American nations....attempted to invade....they could not make it past the U.S. Navy and Air Force.

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    They wouldn't need to initially. Just look at how people lost their (*)(*)(*)(*) on 9/11. America as a target can be softened up for invading forces. If every nation in the world just refused to trade in US currency or trade with the US at all, our complete financial system would melt down, there would be runs on banks, and the government couldn't pay the military. The agribusiness that feeds people would go belly up. In addition, China and russia may have the ability to knock out our satellites which would render much of the technology we do possess rather useless...and then there are nuclear weapons. Send a nuke into Newport News when it is loaded up with carriers and half our Naval superiority as far as beating back an invading military is wiped from the table.
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    Well there is no sense talking about Nukes because that means everyone dies.

    The U.S. is the Financial Hub of this planet and any nations that would not trade in U.S. currency would get hurt a lot worse then we would.

    Our Anti-Anti-Satellite capabilities dwarf any nation out there.

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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can't even get into space without the russians giving us a ride unless somebody lays down in the back of the scaled down military shuttle. Even without nukes, it is doable. The US power grid itself is vulnerable. Hell one time a squirrel in Canada knocked out a big chunk of power in the northeast....and if the rest of the world teamed up as you indicated in your scenario, they would not be worried about being hurt by not using US currency. They would be ending a US to even have a currency as a byproduct of their invasion.
     
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    Militarily it is not doable.

    They could not get anywhere near North America.

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    I am sure you think that the 10 million barrels of oil a day we import will still be exported to the US by all those countries wanting to invade us. Anyway, whatever helps you sleep at night no matter how far-fetched it is.
     
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    I would say Mexico's invasion of rhe USA has been very successful.

    Look at Los Angles County.
    Taco trucks occupying every street corner
    The L.A. County Jail being occupied with mostly Latinos that the Crips and Bloods have their panties all wadded in a bunch that leads to violent confrontations.
    Mexican Mafia / drug cartel lobbyist walking on the floors of the Sacramento State Capitol. (I (*)(*)(*)(*) you not)
    Mexican government lobbyist walking on the floors of the Sacramento State Capitol.
    Push ONE for ENGLISH
     
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    Not a problem the 5 infantryman per mile of US coastline and one proper carrier per 1300 miles of US coastline will save us.
     
  11. DennisTate

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    Over these past fifteen years my wife has introduced me to a lot of
    speakers that I probably would not have heard of if it were not for her.

    I've read quite a bit of Pastor Rick Joyner writings...... the guy seems truly
    gifted to me....... He recently had a dream or vision of what would seem
    kind of like an invasion of the USA from the south.......What has happened in
    Europe over these past couple of years......... proves that something like
    this is possible.

    But it is interesting that The Donald's wall.....might just alter the future and
    prevent this from occurring........

    He wrote this back on October 1, 2014.... which to me seems to be some time before The Donald began
    actively promoting a wall.


    https://www.morningstarministries.o...14/prophetic-bulletin-border-war#.V2FUl1eYjQc
    Yes... I just did a quick search on the forums here and it was mentioned that The Donald
    began to actively promote the wall idea by June of 2015.
     
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    The U.S. is the worlds largest producer of Oil, Natural Gas and Coal.

    By 2023 the U.S. will be completely energy self sufficient and if necessary we could be in 6 months in war time.

    There is more oil reserves in the United States than in every nation on Earth put together.

    The oil was always here....we just needed over 100 years to develop the technology to extract it.

    ONE....out of many very large oil deposits was found in Colorado a few years back and it holds more oil than has ever been used in Human History at over 2 Trillion Barrels.

    Total U.S. Oil Reserves have been estimated to exist between 7 to 16 Trillion Barrels.

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    Oh those evil Mexican's and their salsa!!

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    Okay worse case scenario they get her and invade we have a very large nation, with imposing geography and a large population with access to quite good firearms you would need to not just invade but capture the government and hold every area where resistance is likely with an imposing force and maintain supply lines. Even in WW2 invading the Americas was a scary proposition.

    As for economic threats North America can sustain itself we would need to ration oil, move for more mass transportation, plant all available areas with food crops and sugar cane where feasible for ethanol, fast build nuclear power and coal plants and have martial law for awhile but we could sustain our nation.
     
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    You right.

    In the event some Supernatural Event occurred and the U.S. Navy and Air Force just disappeared overnight.....and let's say the Marines and Army vanished as well......it is IMPOSSIBLE for any invading military to hold land or win a war in North America against a VERY...VERY...well armed North American population.

    The Soviet's considered the invasion of North America IMPOSSIBLE just on that fact alone.

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    Plus Red Dawn is on Netflix.
     
  16. DennisTate

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    I have a really strange theory for you.......

    some truly gifted people....(in my opinion anyway)....

    have had visionary dreams... .or out of the body experiences..... or open visions......

    something like that.... where they see the USA.... divide into two nations......

    and an explosion takes place.......

    We are...(in my opinion anyway)...dealing with the probability that we are being watched.......

    and to at least some degree....."guided" by intelligenceS.... far beyond what we can imagine.......

    so the typical Christian tends to feel those visions mean..... a literal explosion under the USA... that

    causes a rift to separate parts of the USA geographically but..........

    that whole thing could be a metaphor that when the USA economy explodes.... in a good way........

    with a wise....... although flawed new President.......

    all the extra wealth.... causes us to fight and squabble even more..........

    and become even more divided.... as sometimes happens in a family when

    a multi million dollar lotter winning ticket is purchases???????!!!

    This fits in with my other discussion.........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ty-percent-gloom-doom-prophecies-alegory.html
    Could ninety percent of gloom and doom prophecies be an alegory?
    If Multiverse Theory is true...… could there be a time line coming when all the horrible sounding prophecies are fulfilled as some sort of allegory and all us religious types are there scratching our heads as ninety percent or more of the negative predictions that we made are avoided????
     
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    Slow and steady like say Mexico. Oops, too late.

    BTW: That is the Muslim Brotherhood playbook. Slow invasion using our own multiculturalism and laws to take over.
     
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    What I have been told, it will be a 100 year process in America for the Muslim Brotherhood to replace the Constitution with Sharia law.
     
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    The think long term.
     
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    Yes, I dispute it, and everyone that knows history should dispute it.

    The "USA is invincible" claim is naïve and short sighted. At one time, Rome, England, the USSR, China, were thought to be invincible - but times changed, the world changed, and those so-called invincible nations changed.

    There is more than just the military. Leadership comes into play - someone has to make the decision to go to war for the military to be effective. There is economics, and terrorism, and cyber warfare - war is not just the military.

    The USA of today is not the USA of 20 years ago.
     
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    No way, it wont take nearly that long. Look at the changes just since 9/11. In 2000, who would have dreamed that the nation would elect as President an individual who not only rejects America's fundamental values but actively works against the best interests of the nation, who would have dreamed the major domestic issue is the feds forcing transgenderism into elementary schools.

    The USA foundation is collapsing at the same time existential threats are showing up both inside and outside the nation. Its already the start of the endgame, in 100 years the USA will either be a fond memory or a great nation who recovered from near disaster.
     
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    Well Dennis....one never knows.

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    But it is like you wrote......
    Multiverse Theory and non-linear time allow for an astonishing range of possibilities.........

    and as you have also wrote....we can learn something from that segment of the population
    that can legitimately be termed Psychic.
     
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    There is one theory that just size alone can make a nation uninvadable. Russia is supposedly the operative example, but the USA is the fourth largest. Now China seems to disprove that but the thing here is that China has varied in size and shape so much that one can't really make that argument against it.. No foreign power has ever held GREATER China completely in thrall AFAIK

    The whole thing is nothing but Gamer's speculation anyway. Real war nowadays is Atomic war, everything else is really just rather expensive play, and Atomic War kills us all. Hopefully we will wake up and realize that war is obsolete and get rid of all this useless military someday, but I'm not holding anything.

    One thing I've always wondered. The USA was only 17th in the ranks of productive nations in 1941. If Japan had attacked us at the Panama Canal and San Diego, while Germany had some Carriers...
     
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    I'm sure the french, the poles, the russians, & the english also thought that an invasion of their nation would be impossible, as has every conquered nation in history. Reality, unfortunately, is coldly indifferent to our beliefs, & marches on undeterred.
     

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