The Most Violent Gun Crime States Have Two Things In Common

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  1. WatcherOfTheGate

    WatcherOfTheGate New Member

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    You guys are such drama queens and they wonder why people ridicule you and mock you behind your back. Your manufactured hysteria is amusing though. Carry on.
     
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    And the deaths happen within those CITIES which are part of the STATE.
     
  3. Jarlaxle

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    There was none, the OP is just trolling.
     
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    No, the OP actually believes the propaganda that is spreading on the lib blogs. Too bad libs make it hard for liberal gun owners by trying to make firearm confiscation a lib issue.
     
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    That's a collection of photos. Where's the study cited?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry Charlie ... this Propaganda no longer cuts it.
    Take Illinois for example.It just tried to sneak in huge Gun legislation
    into a state senate bill that had the votes.Then when the NRA got whiff of the
    bill and demonstrated it took only about a day before many who would have voted
    declined.Because of pressure.Because when enough good people have a
    voice and explain that city like Chicago { over 500 murders in 2012 } and yet
    Aurora,Ill. { 2nd biggest city in Illinois } had NO murders in 2012 and had
    lax gun laws { meaning many gun owners } where the city of Chicago
    has a Gun Ban { strictest gun laws }.
    The 2 city aren't mutually exclusive.One allows gun ownership and one
    refuses.
    I rest me case.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Take a state and show 2 city.One with a gun ban like Chicago and one
    with open gun ownership { Aurora,Ill. }.
    That is the most precise way of debating how guns either are for a good
    or a bad.
    Wayne LaPierre was throughly correct.
    THE Only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
    Couldn't be any more correct.
    That is preciely why Lefties and Punk mayors like Bloomberg are gonna
    attack that common sense quote.That is what our country has now come
    down to.Making criminals out of decent americans because some little
    power tripping Gestapo like Blooomberg say so.BTW ... Guys like Bloomberg
    will always have bodyguards.In fact,Bloomberg himself would always be
    allowed to arm himself.But he's too much a little wimp to know how to
    load a gun let alone shoot or field dress a weapon.
    Bloomberg's mouth is the most dangerous weapon in N.Y. city right now.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no debate here.It's the Left and Democrats who are actively
    using Hysteria in order to blackmail ALL americans with false
    and ridiculous notions.That Guns are bad.Gun owners are the new KKK.
    That gun owners are in part responsible for what happenned at Sandy Hook.
    Pure Gaslighting.Couldn't be further from the truth.
    This is how the Country is now being manipulated.With bogus Lies
    and propaganda the likes of which N.Korea would feel embarrassed to use.
    It is part and parcel of what Obama meant by transform.
    To turn Americans into transformers { sub-humans with an inability to
    be other than Zombies }.
     
  11. Hoosier8

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    The Illinois House has now tacked on the semi-auto and magazine ban to an unrelated bill, HB2899 that will be voted on by committee today (Sunday the 7th).
     
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    :eyepopping:Maybe because those "Obama voters" don't know where the * * * * they are. Its nothing new.
     
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    :omg:Who knows? Maybe he got ahold of a bad cereal.
     
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    :wink:Then maybe you should be more careful when you speak into the phone. You never know...It might come back and bite you in the * * * some day.
     
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    OP just doesn't want to admit the underlying truth here. The most violent places in the US are urban ghettos. Period, there is absolutely no debate here. OP feels that if you say that then you are attacking minorities, mainly blacks. Not true. But the fact remains that these poor urban neighborhoods filled with mostly minorities have the highest murder rates per capita, BY FAR, than any other areas in America.

    It is really 1st grade logic here. All of the twisted numbers can say whatever they want. The FACT is that you are much more likely to get murdered, robbed, mugged, shot at, etc in Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, Chicago, than you are in Anchorage, Cheyenne, Helena, or Bismarck.

    Not be to harsh but seriously, anyone who cannot see or acknowledge that is an idiot...
     
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    WILL YOU PEOPLE STOP THIS CHILDISH GARBAGE, COME ON!!

    Let those who want to post SERIOUSLY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,POST!!
     
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    I'm sorry, since when was the OP serious. It's a flamebait thread.
     
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    It's only that way if you make it that way,,look at some of these posts. You people are soooo much better than that.
     
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    Here's the hot spots where the actual violent crime is occuring, and unless you are clueless you know these are overwhelmingly blue

    1. Detroit Michigan

    2. Oakland California

    3. Memphis Tennessee

    4. Birmingham Alabama

    5. Atlanta Georgia

    6. Baltimore Maryland

    7. Stockton California

    8. Cleveland Ohio

    9. Buffalo New York


    http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj4...falo/?&_suid=13575008725930010743746523009301

    Epic fail by the OP.
     
  22. Durandal

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    Yep, and then they deflect by fingering minorities for all of the crime, with or without supporting data. I don't think there are many minorities killing each other in Alaska, Montana or Wyoming, though. Such states are not bastions of minority gangs and organised crime. Arizona has a lot of drug gang-related violence, so that one makes for a better case.

    I think that we're stuck as long as states are setting their own gun laws, and as long as the 2nd Amendment is so liberally interpreted at the federal level. If one state tries to restrict gun ownership, it faces obstacles from both the feds and the fact that neighbouring states need not do likewise, meaning that people can probably obtain guns from there by some means.

    As it is now, if people in the US want guns, they can get them. Were we to put the hammer down nation-wide, we would probably have organised crime importing guns to try and take advantage of the new black market that a nation-wide ban would automatically create. However, even in that situation, the numbers of guns would be reduced considerably. If they could be found and collected, which would no doubt be very tricky and a LOT of work for police, we could no doubt eventually reach a better place than where we are now, with far fewer guns around being used to kill other people, regardless of who's pulling the trigger against whom. It would help a lot with reducing gun suicides and accidents as well, of course.

    If guns are restricted from home ownership completely, kept instead under lock, key and guard at gun clubs or some such, taken out for target shooting and hunting under supervision, I should think that would both reduce instances of gun crime quite considerably and foster more respect for guns among the general populace. Being in a gun club in order to have access to the things would mean gun training and certification, or at least it could and should mean that. Right now, the situation is just retarded, with every Tom, Dick and Harry able to get one if they can pass a background check in very many states. Cars, a simple mode of transportation rather than a deadly weapon, are better regulated than this. It makes no sense.

    But, will we ever have an administration prepared to stand up and do what's right? I think they're all worried about getting re-elected to rock the boat by standing up to the pro-gun crowd. But then there is also the aspect of majority rule to be considered, of course. If a majority of Americans want lax gun laws, shouldn't they have them? Well, not necessarily. Sometimes even the majority of people don't know what is best for society, which seems to come down to a culture of shared ignorance and ideology. It might also be that a majority would agree with sweeping gun control laws if they were broad and effective enough to make that needed positive difference. We can't just ban Bushmasters or limit magazine size, and think that'll solve our problems. It won't help a thing, in the end.
     
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    This is kind of an apples and oranges comparison, since the OP was about entire states while yours is about major cities.
     
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    See how sneaky Democrats are.That is cheating.Sneaking in major legislation
    on to ordinary bils,and with no notice.That is what Harry Reid does.That is why
    Mitch McConnell refuses to negotiate with him.And V.P, Biden had to in stead.
    At least the Fiscal Clift led to one good result.No More Boehner meeting in
    private with Obama.
    I think the reason the bill was postponed from Thursday was because it would
    received huige attention.So the Illinois democrats probably played possum
    with the bill.Waiting for a time of their choosing to sneak it in.
    Why should americans trust a Party that sneaks and slithers around.
    Or does like what Happenned in Wisconsin { The Democrats left the state in
    order to keep from having a vote by Governor Walker }.
    Democrats LIE & Cheat as a matter of course.
     
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    Post Seriously WHAT. More Lies and Propaganda.
    Because that is exactly what the Mainstream Media has been doing the
    last 5 years.Ever since Obama threw his hat into the ring.
    Now the MSM feels emboldened since Obama doesn't have to campaign anymore.
    Which begs the question.How is Obama gonna spend his time,if he doesn't
    need to campaign anymore.
     

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