Noise again. There's a large post at the top of the page still completely unanswered. We've got more crap about the "original video" when it has been provided. The desperation to bury this slam dunk evidence seems to be very high! Feel free to stop replying, you are saying nothing anyway. The penthouse collapses and the wave is clearly seen through the building, it's so very, very simple.
I can see it now! 1/2 of the penthouse ran over to the right side because it refused to fall. Now that the lights are on you can really see the core!
Finally the penny drops, just like the penthouse clearly through the building. I wonder how much extra boost the contrast needed to highlight other areas. Great work! You didn't need to change the gif though, the original shows it already. But now we know the collapsing wave is affecting the right side of the building too! Shoot that foot out with a howitzer! p.s. This is actually quite deceptive to boost the contrast so high, now the clear wave is obscured. I'll do my own version of this.
Right, this one has the brightness and contrast boosted up by about 65% enabling the wave to be seen VERY clearly. Running faster it is now TOTALLY obvious what it is: Game over folks, slam dunk evidence.
Wow! Yes the sideways core wave starts on the right side and is clearly seen to move from right to left, perfectly in sync with the penthouse dropping how did they get it to do that?
I wonder how gravity got the core and penthouse to turn all the lights on as they moved down and likewise when they moved from left to right and all at the same time in perfect sync? Awesome show! Left wing sideways collapse! Gravity is amazing isnt it? What physics book did that come from? or ?
That's all you've got? The wave that clearly goes from top to bottom in perfect sync with the penthouse collapse , according to you, now goes across the building? All this time you are spending trying to bury this slam dunk evidence and still not responding to simple requests and the large post at the top of the page. kokomojojo: all your claims are based on altered video clips. Me: PROVE IT! We went from "light refraction due to heat shees", to "refraction", to "smoke", to "artifacts", to "it's fake" then to some batshit about "materially altered video" - ending with the profoundly daft "cgi overlay". THEN, we arrived at the ludicrous gravity now going sideways gibberish. Each claim offering jack to back it up!
your core collapse wave clearly goes from right to left. you have no explanation for this strange gravity driven phenomena!
Nope and as such my explanation is that you are making up crap. The viewers all see the downwards wave. Slam dunk, game over. All you have ieft is diversion.
You defined what the column movement looks like. The viewers can see the columns moving from right to left in 2 sections. Either your conclusions are dead wrong and you need to concede, or you are posting impossible contradictions. Everything else is just diversion. cant have it both ways
"Can't have it both ways" one of which is made up batshit. The only way we CAN have it is the actual way it is. The penthouse collapses through the building. Impossible to miss, totally obvious. Viewers, what we are seeing here are the desperate death-throes of this ridiculous "demolition" batshit. The basic list ignored, but oh, so very relevant: To rig the building for demolition would need a reason for it to be performed. This is pure chance. They could not KNOW large chunks would hit it and set off fires. Demolition charges would need to be resistant to many hours of unabated raging fires within the building on numerous floors. Now the fire teams all reported creaking/instability sounds. They could tell it was in danger of collapse. Insurance-wise the building was a write-off already, from the fires and damage. There would be no reason to demolish it! Previously claimed are vital records that needed to be destroyed. By splattering them all around lower Manhattan instead of just burning them? In the world of business, things are copied and backed up. How long to place charges around the multiple support columns? 2 hours maybe? NOBODY would have batted an eyelid if the official line said the building was too unstable to remain upright, so we are bringing it down for safety reasons. This whole building 7 (multiple claims) makes no logical sense. There is no reason to any of it. Meanwhile, totally obvious of course, the collapse wave that buries this claim completely. Game over, no need for any "NIST scam" and no glorified exposure. Just look at how much effort is being expended to cover this up! Game over. /Thread
Beta defined what the column movement looks like. Yes we are! We are looking through the windows and watching the core collapse sideways! The viewers can see the columns (core propagation) moving from right to left. Either your conclusions are dead wrong and you need to concede, or you are posting impossible contradictions. Everything else is just diversion. cant have it both ways Yep its game over alright but not for me!
Noise again. Saying absolutely nothing. The enhanced gif shows IRREFUTABLY where the penthouse collapses to the bottom. Big wave, impossible to miss, but sadly not impossible to spend dozens of posts trying to cover it up. Interested viewers will wonder how we went from...light refraction due to heat shees", to "refraction", to "smoke", to "artifacts", to "it's fake" then to some batshit about "materially altered video" - ending with the profoundly daft "cgi overlay". THEN, we arrived at the ludicrous gravity now going sideways gibberish. Each claim offering jack to back it up! The very large elephant in the room says game over. The viewers will wonder how anyone can make a claim of fakery, yet provide nothing to prove it. That pretty much sums up this whole pathetic "911-truther" nonsense, where we get dozens of conflicting claims without a single tangible piece of evidence. That's conspiracy batshit for you! The reply to this was evasion.
Beta defined what the column movement looks like: "Just look at that wave through the windows." and "WTC7 Core Failure Propogation Visible" Yes we are! We are looking through the windows as you insist and we are watching the core collapse sideways! The viewers can see the columns (core propagation) moving from right to left. Either your conclusions are dead wrong and you need to concede, or you are posting impossible contradictions. Everything else is just diversion. cant have it both ways Yep its game over alright but not for me! Everything else is just diversion.
Everyone can see the wave in perfect sync with the collapsing penthouse. You will not bury this. Made up crap! It's bad enough that there is complete evasion on the totally and irrefutably obvious visible propagation. This is called a logical fallacy, specifically "a false dichotomy". It's where two alternatives are put forward as the only explanations. The real explanation is that there is NO contradiction at all. The wave CLEARLY falls straight down in perfect sync and the crap about it "going sideways" is a diversion. Eagle-eyed viewers will notice in the GIF that there IS smoke swirling everywhere as previously touted by way of an "explanation" . These viewers would then ask how come this poster hasn't considered this for the totally RANDOM changes on the right side of the building. Noise. Game over. The penthouse clearly collapses from the top through the building.
Ah, so first you tell tell us thats what the core looks like then when it comes to the same thing through the rest of the building, that doesnt fit your narrative, you try to handwave it all away by telling us citing your catastrophic blunder is a diversion.
That's gibberish. I don't have a narrative. I have a video and a gif that every honest person viewing them will see the penthouse collapse through the building all the way to the bottom. I have no idea why you seem to be trying to cover this up. The crap about it going sideways is a joke. There is smoke clearly swirling and you have deceptively manipulated the video. The gif shows a clear synchronized wave downwards, stuff sideways is totally random. I'm positive you know this. Please do not be afraid to accept evidence.
The viewers can all see the same thing. They all know the ridiculous claim of CGI is actual evasion. Interested viewers will wonder how we went from...light refraction due to heat shees", to "refraction", to "smoke", to "artifacts", to "it's fake" then to some batshit about "materially altered video" - ending with the profoundly daft "cgi overlay". THEN, we arrived at the ludicrous gravity now going sideways gibberish. Each claim offering jack to back it up! The video is real, as is the penthouse collapsing through the building with a clearly visible wave. It just doesn't make ANY sense. Why pre-rig a building for demolition when there is no guarantee conditions will occur to provide an alternative! Then again, what world of utter nonsense do hushabooms exist that can survive many hours of unabated fire? The basic list ignored, but oh, so very relevant: To rig the building for demolition would need a reason for it to be performed. This is pure chance. They could not KNOW large chunks would hit it and set off fires. Demolition charges would need to be resistant to many hours of unabated raging fires within the building on numerous floors. Now the fire teams all reported creaking/instability sounds. They could tell it was in danger of collapse. Insurance-wise the building was a write-off already, from the fires and damage. There would be no reason to demolish it! Previously claimed are vital records that needed to be destroyed. By splattering them all around lower Manhattan instead of just burning them? In the world of business, things are copied and backed up. How long to place charges around the multiple support columns? 2 hours maybe? NOBODY would have batted an eyelid if the official line said the building was too unstable to remain upright, so we are bringing it down for safety reasons. This whole building 7 (multiple claims) makes no logical sense. There is no reason to any of it. Meanwhile, totally obvious of course, the collapse wave that buries this claim completely. Game over, no need for any "NIST scam" and no glorified exposure. Just look at how much effort is being expended to cover this up! Lightened version of the gif - notice the smoke drifting across the right side! The very large elephant in the room says game over. The viewers will wonder how anyone can make a claim of fakery, yet provide nothing to prove it. That pretty much sums up this whole pathetic "911-truther" nonsense, where we get dozens of conflicting claims without a single tangible piece of evidence. That's conspiracy batshit for you!
but you posted one! So its ok for you to putz with the brightness and contrast but you call foul ball when I do the same. Pathetic!
Beta defined what (core) column movement looks like inside the building through the windows: "Just look at that wave through the windows." and Beta also posted: "WTC7 Core Failure Propogation Visible" Yes we are! We are looking through the windows as you insist and we are watching the core collapse sideways! The viewers can see the columns (core propagation) moving from right to left. Either your conclusions are dead wrong and you need to concede, or you are posting impossible contradictions. Everything else is just diversion. cant have it both ways Yep its game over alright but not for me! Everything else is just diversion.
I posted a gif. The gif can clearly be seen to show the penthouse collapsing through the building in a synchronous wave. To "putz" mildly with the brightness, contrast and speed to show itefen clearer is good enhancement. To do so when there is zero sync, complete random changes that correspond to the visible smoke clouds wafting over, that's just deceptive. Oh and that is what is really pathetic.
There is absolutely no point in engaging with you if you seriously think the random, contrived crap produced by deliberately over-pushing the brightness on what is obviously smoke, is the same as the clear, irrefutable wave dropping through the building. You've spent over two pages trying to cover this up and still no direct admission that it is there. But, all viewers watching this thread will know what is going on. It's game over, slam dunk. There is no bullshit demolition. There's a big list that has been avoided at all costs showing how ridiculous this whole thing is. There's an animated gif showing the penthouse collapse, that you offered up a whole series of ridiculous excuses for...we went from...light refraction due to heat shees", to "refraction", to "smoke", to "artifacts", to "it's fake" then to some batshit about "materially altered video" - ending with the profoundly daft "cgi overlay". THEN, we arrived at the ludicrous gravity now going sideways gibberish. Each claim offering jack to back it up!
Yeh I know thats what makes your look through the windows to see columns and penthouse collapsing claim so over the the top because you identified what we should see and we see a simultaneous secondary wave going sideways, that is also in sync, and we know there is no penthouse on the right side of the building, and we all know that only a demolition could pull all those columns sideways, of course the other choice is you can concede the blunder you made, but we both know that aint gonna happen.
so when are you going to provide proof of your ridiculous cgi claims … let’s cut through the bullshit and sack up …
