The nonsense of reparations

I guess we'll see, but it's like they never stop pushing racist legislation. The really irritating part is they have the unmitigated gall to call others racist, while they actively promote racism.

 

OK, I think I get your point now. But I think the northeastern demographics are better explained by the fact that there weren't many black slaves up north even when it was legal. There simply wasn't the same agricultural need as the South had. Or maybe black people who were used to Africa and then the South simply didn't like the cold weather up north once they got the freedom to choose. And things get really complicated when you consider that slavery was already a thing when we were still colonies, so the practice was kind of forced on us by England, who was still calling the shots at that time. So do you hold states that inherited slavery from the colonial period to the same level of culpability as the states that fought a war to keep it legal? I don't see any way to properly account for all the variables.

 

Your assertion that slavery was forced on us from England I can’t quite understand. We fought and killed them for the rights we wanted for ourselves. Did they just forget about morality after we won? So blacks helped us fight and free ourselves yet we will choose to enslave them? Not very welcoming. Instead they went the capitalist route. These blacks are gaining this country massive amounts of wealth very quickly. So no matter where your were if you were white you had great advancement because of slave labor no one is innocent up until a point in our history. The point when change was decide.

 

Slavery was a holdover from colonial times, and you know culture doesn't change instantly. And while you could ascribe the wealth of the south to slavery, I don't see how you could make the same argument for the north.

 

If slavery was so profitable, Africa wouldn't be the economic black hole it is today.

 

Because in a fight for freedoms you don’t think hey these people should be free too? Blacks in Africa were considered savages. So to go from savage to peaceful slave as a culture is very dramatic. I’m thinking about freedom and looking in the eyes of a human being and saying your a slave is very illogical to me. Everyone experiences a different side of human nature but for everyone to agree for freedom except these guys is way above the fray. Please excuse the run on sentences.

 

Africa is riddled with negative influences. How can you gather slaves without a home base? How can you have a billion dollar multiple corporation diamond company off the coast of Africa. But when an African finds one it’s a blood diamond. No sir just like the Middle East Africa’s evolution was hindered by greed.

 

Of course the captivity had a lot to do with that. They were being force-fed Christianity and any "savage" behavior would result in dire punishment.

And how did the north's wealth come from slavery? You forgot to explain that part.

 

The economy was thriving because of slavery. Just because you made clothes up north doesn’t mean you have no responsibility. When you need more cotton because demand is high how do you think they got it? Either by the south whipping the Slaves harder or getting more slaves. Fishing in the north there was no refrigerator at the time. But hey let’s trade this tobacco with Spain or whoever’s and this cotton for profit. But oh wait we have to pay 10 cents on the dollar to black workers did not happen.

 

That just doesn't make sense. If slavery was the source of the north's wealth, they wouldn't have fought so hard to get rid of it. And even in the south, the wealth generated through slavery was destroyed in the civil war, and there was no slavery during the restoration and beyond. Yet the wealth of the US after slavery ended became far greater than with slavery.

 

The south was bringing in more money prior to the civil war thanks to the cotton trade, but I can't recall somebody ever using the cotton picking prowess of slaves to explain the economic superiority of the south before. I had always assumed it was the cotton gin.

 

. The south focused on the agricultural side of the economy. The north started to industrialize faster. It gave them the option to change the work force. But they profited considerably more than the south from the sale of cotton, leather, iron goods etc. but their money maker for them to get to that point to be able to industrialize was cotton.

So the economy grew when blacks added to the economy as workers instead of slaves. That is good to know tell that to corporate farmers and roofing companies Hispanics need recognition too.

 

From what I've been able to figure out, that is the general gist of the idea. Southern states are hot, humid, and generally just plain damn uncomfortable to work outside for Europeans. They tried enslaving Indians, but that was like herding cats. The Africans were already enslaved in Africa thanks to countless wars between the various tribes, and then brought to a completely new place where there was really no place to run.

The problem with all of this is that there doesn't appear to be that much in the way of economic prosperity for blacks now, no matter where they are. If having African slaves was so beneficial financially back in the day when they were slaves, you're making a fine argument for the uncle Ruckus theory of economics which states that blacks prosper when the white man provides firm leadership.

Or maybe it was more like this...

 

Well, businesses do make more money when more people are around who can afford to buy their stuff. So I guess that means that slavery actually slowed the growth of the early American economy by suppressing wages. Certain slaveholders made bank, but the people who didn't own slaves (i.e. most people) were just left to compete with literal slaves for jobs.

I'll bring it up at the next meeting.

 

Most of what the FedGov does is unconstitutional.

Education, corporate welfare, housing, food stamps, minimum wage, healthcare, et al.

None of those things is authorized in the Constitution.

 

1; Reparations aren't illegal.. We paid reparations to native Americans, native Hawaiians, and Japanese Americans (following their time in concentation....oops I mean "internment" camps.

2; Reparations would also be paying for the say, 100 years spent as second class citizens with almost no rights. And the countless people who were murdered (often with the blessings of political leaders) in the south by TERRORIST GROUPS like the KKK.