The people want less immigration

They're filing law suits against it as we speak.

Classic Democrat approach.

Cant pass a law? Evade Congress and use an EO.

Don't like a law that gets passed? Ignore it, sue, and get one of your bought-n-paid-for judges on the 9th to block it while you flood the courts with just enough backlog to last till the next election.

 

The 9th Circus needs to be broken up.

 

State of California too.

 

Indeed. If the major population centers on the coast try to leave the Union, I suspect that most of the geography of the State will vote to split off and remain in the Union.

 

Oh I meant split the state into two but if the commie-cluster wants to leave then by all means.

They just better keep in mind all the federal land we'll be keeping as well as the ports, the military bases, nuclear facilities, government buildings, etc, and so on.

 

Shouldn't be a problem. Afterall, we kept Gitmo.

 

No issues *shrugs* and simply addressing something with opinion clearly doesn't disprove anything stud The best you're doing is a "Push"! My personal opinion with your reluctance to prove my "Quote" is you don't want information contrary to you're love of misinformation, so if you don't look "Bury your head on sand" you can continue to believe what makes you feel good inside Now that is a real issue lil man

 

Same reasons Americans can not be born in Kenya.

 

Insults and ad hom fallacy is not an argument for much

 

What insults? The one where your basically calling me liar "Twice" and commenting to my mental health, then offer absolutely nothing but you're opinion and nothing more?

So would you like to ask the mods to review this string of posts? If I can find the link you can to

 

Please do ask the mods for review. They will laugh at you. You were the one that made a false claim in relation to what Celorio said.

He states that he is willing to take "Mexican's back". You are trying to claim that he said he was willing to take children born in the US who are thus not Mexican's back (or at least you have not shown that they are... I am not an expert in what is required for Mexican citizenship but, since it is your claim it is up to you to prove that claim true ... and you havn't)

Now you are complaining because I pointed out that you have not proven your claim and for this you want to complain to the mods and hurled a bunch of insults my direction.

The other point is that not all the kids born in the US to illegals are Mexican.

Don't blame me for your fallacy.

 

Well lets just make this simple for you, shall we If the undocumented parents of American born children "WANT" to be with or want their Childen then it's as simple as obtaining a visa for them, Jesus dude, is it really that hard for you to be somewhat informed? As long as Mexico allows the parents back without any penalty then the children joining them is hardly an issue!

Wise up

 

It may well be that "if" these parents are allowed back, not just in Mexico but in all the other countries they may be able to get Visa's for their kids.

1) you have not proved this claim but let us accept it anyway
2) having a "Visa" does not make one a citizen
3) not being a citizen present employment challenges .. especially if one is on a professional path. They will face all kinds of challenges obtaining employment in the field that they have trained for.
4) This is than punishment (penalty as you put it). As such it is a violation of the Rule of Law principle that one person should not be punished for the actions of another. This is not "equal Justice" under the law.

 

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft, vote all you want shoog, there is always a cabal of Godlman Sachs execs in your white house "either" way. We the people subsidize an entitled aristocracy endlessly, via socialism, the fact that you do not call it a "titled aristocracy" is utterly irrelevant. The unsubstatial people bailed out Wall Street banksters via socialism seamlessly across "both" "conservative" and "liberal" administrations; the entire planet witnessed this - and the same economic "advisement" team was operative in "both" administrations.

If you would like to quible about what to call it I would point you to the Sheldon Wolin coined term 'inverted totalitarianism".

"Wolin throughout his scholarship charted the devolution of American democracy and in his last book, “Democracy Incorporated,” details our peculiar form of corporate totalitarianism. “One cannot point to any national institution that can accurately be described as democratic,” he writes in that book, “surely not in the highly managed, money-saturated elections, the lobby-infested Congress, the imperial presidency, the class-biased judicial and penal system, or, least of all, the media.”

Inverted totalitarianism is different from classical forms of totalitarianism. It does not find its expression in a demagogue or charismatic leader but in the faceless anonymity of the corporate state. Our inverted totalitarianism pays outward fealty to the facade of electoral politics, the Constitution, civil liberties, freedom of the press, the independence of the judiciary, and the iconography, traditions and language of American patriotism, but it has effectively seized all of the mechanisms of power to render the citizen impotent."

 

To the contrary, it is completely relevant. Titled aristocracy assumes an inherent right to rule. There is no such thing in our system. In our system every government power derives, without exception, from someone who has been elected. All power is derived from the individual who grants an outlined measure of authority to our representatives in order for them to accomplish that which is carefully spelled out in our Constitutional Documents. What you rightfully rail against is the arrogation of the privileges of Aristocracy by The Deep State, but, never forget that at its core their arrogance is illegitimate.

They must be stood against, lawfully resisted and brought under the authority of law.

Without a doubt, it's both sides. They keep us split fifty/fifty and pitted at each other's throats. So long as we are dumb enough to fall for this, the game will continue. But, as is always the case when a small group rules a big group, the small group lives in fear of revolution. The beauty of our system is that this can always be done lawfully and peacefully, simply by using the tools at our disposal. Split fifty/fifty we are neutralized and powerless, when a view accumulates something closer to 2/3rds support, we become unstoppable.

It has pretended to seize all the mechanisms of power, we are NOT impotent, we are merely, currently, divided.

Read Article 5 of the US Constitution, 2/3rds of the States can pose any amendment they wish. They could alter taxation, break up Congress and locate each branch at opposite ends of the country. Restrict what they may vote on, abolish the Presidency, redefine it, eliminate, split up, alter the jurisdiction of the Courts, it's an open field, the point is they can form an amendment drafting committee, draft the amendments with no input from Congress, and on ratification by 3/4ths of the States, it becomes a part of the Constitution with all the force of the entirety of the Federal Government, and all these powers are there to be exercised, with no input from the National Government.

We never, in our system need stand by and accept an oppressive government. The power is always in our hands, we need to only communicate and work effectively with our fellow citizens.

 

"Titled aristocracy assumes an inherent right to rule. There is no such thing in our system."

Yeah look, I stopped reading after that, I'm not helping you promote fiction and illusion.

 

You always have the right to tightly close your eyes and plug your ears!

 

The gunshot wound is a trend among progressives that laws can be broken at will.

 

Are you speaking for the party of Dynasties? So, Clintons and Bushes can't get elected, so let's dig up a Kennedy and hold our breath until one of the Obama girls get old enough.

 

Uh, what?

 

I think it's ironic how people bring their OBVIOUS racial bias to these forums while slamming others (usually whites), claiming them to be the ones that are racist!

 

CNN admits immigration crackdown leads to higher wages

I am sure that Mark Zandi wishes he could get a do-over in that interview he gave to CNN.

Zandi is the left-of-Lenin chief economist with Moody's Analytics. He wanted to undercut the news that wages rose in Year One of the Trump higher than they did in any of those eight agonizing years of Awful Obama.

Zandi failed.

He set a trap and fell right into it.

The wage increases are not even, Steven.

CNN pointed out, "The job classification with the biggest annual percentage increase was clothing manufacturing. Wages jumped 14% on average according to the labor department data. That's a very small sector with only 116,000 workers, most of whom make high end merchandise. That's because the overwhelming majority of clothing sold in U.S. is imported from low wage countries, leaving behind only high-end clothing manufacturing."

Wow. As a former member of the Amalgamated Clothing and Textile Workers Union (now part of the Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees), I am happy for them.

How did that happen?

Zandi explained.

"These are people who are very skilled. And I'm sure it's very difficult to hold onto those workers," he said.

Why is that?

"I'm sure the crackdown on immigration is having an impact in that sector," he said.

CNN reported this is "forcing manufacturers to pay their remaining workers even more."

Yes, suddenly employers must hire Americans to work in American factories.

"This is only the beginning. It's going to get a lot worse," Zandi said.

Sure, it is worse if you are a liberal with 10 suits and a cushy, six-figure job. The idea of paying $2 more for your new sweater or hoodie must be devastating.

But if you are an American working in a textile mill making $12.59 an hour, that 14% raise under President Trump is pretty darned good.

That works out to $1.76 an hour. Not counting overtime, that's an extra $3,666.21 a year.

Add to that Trump's tax cuts this year, and you have a man or a woman who is doing better than he has done in nine long years.

Trump is enforcing America's immigration laws, which is helping highly skilled but low paid workers earn more live their dream.

Because Americans are dreamers too!

Just like Trump said.

http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/02/cnn-admits-immigration-crackdown-leads.html#more

 

The only way we can keep from turning into a shithole country then is to have an amendment to the Constitution that makes it impossible for anyone who is taking welfare or public assistance of any kind to vote. Otherwise you are right and we will have a permanent majority of welfare bums who mooch a living off the government in return for their votes. That is what Democrats want more than anything else.