The Pseudoscience of J. Philippe Rushton

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  1. mikemikev

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    Find some race based crime data for your cherry picked cities (possibly not an assertion from "goamsterdam.com") and get back to me. I won't be holding my breath.
     
  2. Egalitarianjay02

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    It's About.com and I don't need to find race-based crime data because if the city is one of the safest in the world yet as culturally diverse as it is we can infer that the racial diversity isn't causing the city to be unsafe. It can't be one of the safest cities in the world if the large non-White population is causing major problems. Likewise Moscow's demographic alone indicates that White people are the ones causing most of the crime because it is nearly 100% White.
     
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    And you can call my examples cherry-picked but I only need one example to counter your argument.
     
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    No, you need race based crime data.
     
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    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2624/moroccan-crime-netherlands

     
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    There is a need because often assertions are just lies.

    They are non-White Caucasoids.
     
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    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.ne...n-in-holland-antilleans-and-somalis-compared/

    In 2010 the research centre of Erasmus University of Rotterdam produced a report at the request of the Dutch government on the effects of public investment on the empowerment of Antillean communities between 2005 and 2008. A total of 44 million Euros were spent, more than was spent on any other minority group with problems, even though the Antillean community is relatively small (141,000 in 2011). The local projects did not yield any positive results, and in some cases the situation was even worse than before government intervention. The main problems are broken families, school dropout, unemployment, and criminality. Half of the Antilleans grow up with one parent (usually the mother) according to the Yearly Report on Integration of 2009 (p. 14). The school drop-out rate among Antilleans is almost half (p. 9). The crime rate is 6 times higher among Antilleans than among the native Dutch (page 10). One of the consequences is that in 2008 there were 14 times more Antilleans in jail than native Dutch if the figures are corrected to reflect their ratio of the population. The overrepresentation of the Antilleans in jail compared to their crime rate is mainly the result of the brutal violence that is a hallmark of Antillean criminals.

    Somalis don’t fare any better than their Black brethren from the Caribbean. The prospect of Somalis in Holland is so bleak that the integration report mentioned above tells us that the only bright spot is that there are not so many of them (!!). (There were approximately 22,000 in 2009.) An astonishing 58% grow up with only one parent (p. 14). The school drop-out rate is so high that only 23% have a diploma of secondary education—a major factor in the high Somali unemployment rate. Forty percent of Somali males aged 15–64 have no job and as a result they are registered as recipients of social welfare. The heavy reliance of broken families on social welfare is illustrated by the fact that 46% of Somali women rely on welfare. Somalis are also not entrepreneurs, unlike the overseas Chinese, 13.4% of whom are entrepreneurs. The Somali rate of entrepreneurship (0.8%) is 9 times lower than that of native Dutch. According to the 2011 report Somalis in Holland, more than half of the Somalis (58%) have no education beyond primary level, which in effect means no education at all (p. 25).

    [Sources in link]
     
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    You're quoting racist websites with dubious sources which don't undercut my argument. Amsterdam is one of the safest cities in the world and very diverse. Moscow is very ethnically homogenous but very dangerous.

    There are other examples.

    Why are Eastern European countries so much poorer than Western European countries?

    Why do North Korea and South Korea have such different governments and standards of living?

    Why do Native Americans (Mongoloids) and Hispanics (Mongoloid-Caucasoid hybrids) have lower average IQs than Whites?

    Why do Southeast Asians have lower IQs and standard of living than Northeast Asians?

    Why are Black African immigrants outperforming Whites and Asians in America and Britain?

    This highly consistent pattern you speak of is not real. It's highly selective and there are numerous facts which contradict it.

    Society is more complex than group A is smart and group B is dumb.
     
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    You are just asserting this again (before changing the subject). Where is your data fro crime in Amsterdam and Moscow, ethnic composition of these cities, and race based crime data?

    My "racist website" (any website that says something about race you don't like) references statistics from the Dutch Ministry of the Interior.

    You reference nothing except a tourism website making an assertion.
     
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    You mean those studies showing Blacks having equal brain, skull and head size as Whites?

    Surely you're right. I've just missed your numerous postings of these studies.
     
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    What is the crime rate of Muslims and/or Africans in Amsterdam, or any European city/nation for which you can get data?
     
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    What I have argued is that there are no racial hierarchies in brain size and brain size does not determine intelligence.

    I didn't argue that all brains are the same size as there is variance within and between populations but that variance does not structure in hierarchical fashion (e.g. Group A always have bigger brains than Group B). I backed up my claim with statements by Joseph Graves, an evolutionary biologist who has studied the subject and an article by Leonard Lieberman who addresses the topic in detail.


    I don't know if those stats exist and I don't need them to make my point. If Amsterdam is ethnically diverse yet one of the safest cities in the world then that diversity hasn't turned it in to a dangerous city.
     
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    You haven't "argued" that at all, just asserted it again and again the face of a mountain of contrary data.
     
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    I have argued the point and demonstrated it to be true. The data you speak of is tainted and of poor quality.
     
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    So Lieberman believed Blacks and Whites had equal brain volume?

    Brain size correlates with IQ based on every study measuring brain volume and IQ.

    So do Northern Europeans have, on average, larger brain volume than West-African Blacks?
     
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    So why is there no study (out of hundreds) finding Blacks have the same or larger brain size if the data is "tainted and of poor quality". Explain, specifically, what could cause that. Is the truth that you don't like the finding so just call it silly names?
     
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    Note here's EJ saying they didn't "control the variables" and thus "the data is tainted and of poor quality", meaning 100 independent surgeons didn't drain or debride only the East Asian brains every time in 100 studies, and that when they do MRI they cut off at a deeper point for just Black people, every time, and that East Asians have bigger body size in every sample, and that Blacks were measured at a colder or hotter temperature (ask him which one), every time, or whatever he means, again, right here in this thread:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=373375&page=2&p=1064262837#post1064262837

    Note how he fails to explain other than saying "they didn't control the variables". He then claims to have debunked every brain size study.

    Isn't that easy! Don't like some data? Just say: "You didn't the control the variables". No need to explain any further. Then claim the studies are worthless. Should we control for the transit of Venus perhaps?

    Also, be sure to back yourself up with a single source from 1970. You wouldn't want to give the impression that you just make (*)(*)(*)(*) up.
     
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    Obviously the racism and white supremacy with mike is obvious.....that comment should show the anti-Semitism....and just FYI, on another thread....he was praising Hitler.


    So I think we all know what we're dealing with.
     
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    Yes, somebody who's correct talking to anti-Whites who can only make hypocritical accusations of so called "anti-Semitism" rather than admit Jewish anti-White lies.
     
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    He believed that a comparison between geographic populations was invalid.

    It's only a moderate correlation.

    No. In fact when Tobias corrected for body size on some studies he found that American Blacks had larger brains and more excess neurons than several White populations.

    Only in your twisted mind is accusing someone of "Jewish debate tactics" not anti-Semitic.
     
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    What's an "excess neuron"?
     
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    The reserve neurons in the brain not needed for transmitting impulses.

     
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    So Europeans should have larger brain volume than Northeast-Asians?

    Fascinating.

    But that wasn't my question. What did Lieberman say of West-African Blacks and Northern-European Whites having brain volume differences?

    Which is higher than the current consensus of the cultural influence on adult intelligence.

    Why is Tobias the only one to have made this discovery?

    Are you in fact incapable of reading? What study correcting for height by the original authors finds Blacks having greater or equal brain volume than Whites?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2668913/

    Why is no independent study adjusting for height showing the same results as Tobias' number-fudging?

    Is there a particular reason you cherry-pick Tobias adulterated studies but stay clear of every other study?
     
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    I suppose you can give the attrition ratios if you want to pretend the Allies stomped Germany, then, right?
     

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