The rank hypocrisy of capitalist propaganda

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    free of government control and it could be that way by the government not controlling it.

    allowing the consumer to control it with their dollar.

    That makes no kind of sense. If someone steals something from here they deprive you of your property police arrest people who steal because they violated someone's rights to their property.

    Do you even have the first idea about what you're talking about?

    Controlling theft has nothing to do with government interference in the market.
     
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    you said they controlled the govt but had no example???
     
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    small loans and all paid 100% back. Failed individuals get trillions and never pay back a penny!! Sorry to rock your world.
     
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    10,000 fail each month actually. Letting all banks fail and cause an instant world wide depression would have been 100% stupid. many did fail though and huge lessons were learned as owners lost billions on most of those that survived.
     
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    maintaining a stable market through govt police protection is essential to capitalism. So is court system which enforces police action , contracts and private property rights. Now do you understand?
     
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    capitalism requires some govt control which is fine as long as the control is toward capitalism rather than socialism
     
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    Not true. Last I heard Chevy, Dodge, Fannie, and Freddie were still way in the red to the feds.
     
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    The feds allowed small backs to fail and be bought out by big banks. While supporting the big banks with all the cash they wanted.
     
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    The government contributed to the issues with the vehicles by placing unreasonable expectations on them. It is simliar to Wells Fargo dictating sales leading to people doing questionable things in order to stay employed.

    These issues are mostly a combination of socialism and corporatism not that the to are really any different...
     
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    Many huge huge banks did fail like Lehman Bros Merryl Lynch etc
    Nobody got cash, they got loans which they paid back.
     
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    yes they are identical but liberals prefer the term crony capitalism as if soviet socialist businesses hadn't starved 120 million to death.
    In crony capitalism the connection between govt and business is very bad while under socialism the connection between govt and business is mysteriously very good!! Show how 100% naive liberals are.
     
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    Fannie Mae-Freddie Mac bailout now profitable for taxpayers - Feb ...
    money.cnn.com/2014/02/21/news/economy/fannie.../index.html

    Feb 21, 2014 ... Fannie Mae's latest profitable quarter means that payments from Fannieand ... and Freddie Mac in one of the most expensive bailouts of the financial crisis. ... and sells them to investors with a guarantee the loans will be repaid. ... a new housing downturn that plunges Fannie and Freddie back into red ink; ..
     
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    Yes, Fannie and Freddie owe the feds a lot of money. I just said that.
     
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    have you been living under a rock?
     
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    what??
     
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    Giving them a 700 billion dollar check which they just pocketed was even dumber.

    Good that is how capitalism works.
     
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    This is bonkers. Theft being illegal isn't control of markets.

    The imbecilic **** you said before this makes no sense.
     
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    Capitalism requires free markets. Government control is the antithesis of capitalism.

    Control can't be toward capitalism.
     
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    How is the above the problem of an economic system ??
     
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    wrong of course, govt has much control of capitalism and socialism. In the case of capitalism it controls to encourage and maintain free markets and in socialism to own and manage industries.
     
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    govt has courts for example that control and enforce private property rights which are essential for Republican capitalism.
     
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    sure it is, without govt protection of capitalism there would be no capitalism. they are like the mafia only a force for good. One person may thing he's a capitalist but he would soon be a ripped off and worthless beggar without govt support of capitalism.
     
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    if govt takes over or controls an industry and runs it as a monopoly that is the antithesis of capitalism. If the govt prevents a monopoly from taking over an industry that the thesis of capitalism.
     
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    ah but without police to enforce property rights you'd have pure chaos and no control. Govt must step in to control a market place.
     
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    The rule of law is essential to any economic system. But critical to capitalism because it allows the free market to function independently from gov interference.
     

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