The Real Agenda Is Oh So Apparent

I’ll say it again, I’m no Donald Trump fan. I didn’t vote for him and I think he’s a radical egotistical narcissist. And I despise Hillary Clinton and didn’t vote for her either.

Having said that, I just want to say that as a true nonpartisan, (I despise political parties), I’m appalled at what I see going on politically. It’s oh so apparent that leftist media and even America’s security and intelligence agencies are hell bent on bringing this President down.

If an incoming National Security Advisor talking to a foreign nations leaders before he actually takes the position officially, is a crime, there’s something screwed up with the law.

When Democrats, major leftist media and the neo-cons John McCain and Lindsey Graham scream bloody murder for investigations and hearings to attempt to crucify Flynn and Trump because of Flynn’s so-called crime, and nary a word is mentioned about the real crime whereby somebody in the intelligence agencies leaked the classified material to the media, then priorities are ass backwards and or the only REAL agenda is to embarrass and bring down Trump.

It’s disgusting and enraging and it would be sad if it weren’t so damned pathetic!

 

100% correct . Democrats will destroy this country rather then let we the people have any power at all.

 

100% Agreed!

 

Horse crap...and that applies to those who agreed with you.

 

Leaking SIGINT is not a crime? For Obama, talking to foreign despots to further his agenda is 'dialog' but a republican doing the same is 'treason'.

 

Don't obfuscate; talking on the phone is not a crime.
What was discussed on the phonecall has not been released. But if he talked political favors, there may be an issue.
Also, he was let go not for the contents of the call, but because he lied to Pence and others about the call. I'd fire somebody over that, no?
Especially if the call could be used as leverage down the line.

 

If any of the crap going on right now were happening with a Democrat in the White House...you guys would be in terminal fury.

For the soon-to-be NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR to be talking about sanctions with a Russian ambassador before Trump was president...is so colossally stupid, it boggles the mind.

If he was too naive to realize the ambassador's phones might be bugged (THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES!)...just what kind of advice do you suppose he would have given the president if he had lasted more than two weeks in the job?

What has turned so many people into Zombies for Trump?

 

Here is the problem with this. We have a private citizen (at the time) interfering with state business. We also have Federal employees leaking possibly classified information. It is possible for BOTH to be wrong - not just one or the other.

If we start saying that it's OK for private citizens to deal with foreign governments because they might one day be confirmed to
a political post - then where do we draw the line?

And if we start saying that it's OK to leak classified information because of political agendas - where do we draw the line?

There's a whole lot of wrong on both sides in this story, and going to the third grade, "he did it first," excuse is infantile.

 

Isn't that their MO?

Weaken America, take the power away from the American people, give that power to 1 world government..

What you describe is their plan exactly..

 

The agenda is clear, do whatever it takes to undo the recent election and stop the agenda of mainstream Americans that are fed up with our current entrenched power structure. If the elites and their stooges were to be successful I shudder to think of the revolt that would ensue. Things could get very ugly very fast as mainstream America is forced into a position of accepting defeat in this war declared on them by the left or by taking up arms since democracy has failed and totalitarianism has prevailed.

 

Intelligence said nothing they determined about the call was wrong. They leaked the information because they were afraid Flynn could be blackmailed because he did not tell Pence about what he talked about.

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Trump transition team and intelligence found nothing wrong with the call. See above.

 

You have any solid foundation for this assertion or is it just your feelers in distress?

 

That's what's so amusing about this.

They think they're making Trump look bad, but all they're doing is opening people's eyes that haven't thought about politics their whole lives.

 

Or just watch them and laugh because we know better..

no sense stopping them, they are damaging their own party plenty well making it easy on us to put the left in the grave..

Just sit back and watch them dig their hole.. If they want to dig it themselves we don't have to do it for them..

 

I only hope you are correct

 

I guess a lot of it is based on the fact that people like you and a few others here, obviously graduates of the Sarah Palin University of Ejucaton, think that YOU PEOPLE are "we, the people" and that anyone not part of YOU PEOPLE are not part of "we, the people."

The "real agenda" of anyone who cares about this country (both from the left, right, and center) ought be how to survive this cancer we have allowed to enter the body politic; how best to prevent it from metastasizing.

My guess is you will not be able to see that.

Okay.

 

Right.

That's why your last candidate was the personification of corruption and crime.

When the left can't riot in the streets, they riot in the newspapers.

 

The cancer you are referring to are the commie leftists hell bent on degrading America in the benefit of globalist powers correct?

Funny you accuse Trump of being in with the Russians while those smashing up our cities in childish tantrums are flying the hammer and sickle..

 

Bwahahahahaha!

BTW: The real cancer are the Obama leftovers. The cancer was Obama politicizing government departments. The cancer is the democrats trying to take down the government from the inside because they lost a free and fair election.

 

I see that we have not had a good ol "it 's those Dems and lefties and McCain's fault" thread in a long time now - well not in the last 7 hours until this ditty of your showed up.

It is not against the law to talk to the enemy but it us against the law to negotiate with an agent of a foreign power. If KGB agent Flynn ( code name Flipper) had not told thecRussians not to worry about the sanctions " we will smooth things over" there would not be a problem.

For a guy who claims to be a non partisan you sure have the Trump cultists talking point down. You got " Dems bad, Media bad, McCain and Graham real bad , any criticism of the Dildo Throne is bad,

Yup that sure is non partisan.

 

Blah blah blah, you have EVERYONE after Trump now because they know he's a traitor.

Even Mitch McConnell was all over this yesterday.

 

Conspiracy..

 

I am also not a fan of either of the candidates and I agree with what you say here. However what is said in those phone calls become a factor. If the phone call is wishing the guy's wife a happy birthday that's one thing. If the phone call is undermining my setting President that is a different thing. That is treason.

 

I realize that.

My last candidate?

I had no candidate...I am an Independent.

I STRONGLY favored Hillary Clinton...a MUCH more honest and competent individual than Donald Trump.

(In retrospect, I now wish the Dems had nominated someone other than Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.)

Really?

Good trick if they can pull that off.

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Oh, no. You misunderstood me. "The cancer" I referred to was DONALD TRUMP...and his advocates.

C'mon!

 

I don't think so.

I think the cancer is the incompetence and ineptitude of Donald Trump.

You seem to disagree.

That's your right in this country...at least for the moment.