The Ukraine scandal is like...

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Give it a minute……….
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You raise an important question. IF the Current Ukraine "scandal" disappeared i.e. the Mueller Report, something else would immediately rush in to fill the void. What these idiots don't understand, the American public is rapidly tiring of their manufactured attempts to get Trump out of office.
    Prediction, sometime next summer they will next try to crash the economy
     
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    This is the Trump playbook. He assassinates people's character. It's what he does. Because he wants to stay away from substantive debate. And Because if he is on the offensive attacking the other person's character he can keep the subject off his own lack of character....................like schtoinking a porn star while married.
     
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    So Trump invited the grieving parents to the White House and then tried to surprise them with the woman who killed their son. Trump again demonstrates his reptilian nature.

    To him, everything is "a deal."

    How would he feel if Ivanka had been killed by a British driver in the US?

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    The family of a British teenager killed in a wrong-way crash involving the wife of an American diplomat said President Donald Trump dropped a "bombshell" during a meeting at the White House, revealing that the woman was waiting to meet them in the room next door.

    Harry Dunn, 19, was killed after his motorcycle was hit by Anne Sacoolas, who admits driving on the wrong side of the road near a British military base used by the United States.

    ...Harry Dunn's parents say they want justice for their son.Courtesy of the Dunn Family

    Dunn's parents want Sacoolas to return to the U.K. to face trial, and they have traveled to the U.S. to find answers. But during a meeting with Trump at the White House on Tuesday, they said the president made what they considered a shocking and inappropriate offer.

    "The bombshell was dropped not soon after we walked in the room: Anne Sacoolas was in the building and was willing to meet with us," Dunn's mother, Charlotte Charles, told reporters in Washington afterward. "We made it very clear that as we've said all along … we would still love to meet with her but it has to be on our terms and on U.K. soil."...

    "Unfortunately, that was a gargantuan miscalculation," he said, describing the way the meeting was proposed as "so wrong."


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/harry-dunn-s-family-reject-trump-s-bombshell-offer-meet-n1067246
     
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    Lee, take a look at this.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/harry-dunn-s-family-reject-trump-s-bombshell-offer-meet-n1067246
     
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    Give it a minute? really? Do you honestly believe that is how the 24 hour cable news networks operate? There really isnt anything here to debate/argue. If that information was available it would have traveled around the world 50 times already. I honestly dont care about his tax returns and whether they are released, but you really do need to use a little common sense when some obscure source says they have them while every other leftist outfit ignores them.
     
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    I have only seen three so far.
     
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    So...........if a Dem candidate who said he would release his returns were to renege on that offer..........and also retain ownership of multiple businesses representing conflicts of interest (including Trump Tower, Istanbul)........refuse to comply with a congressional subpoena for those returns.........and is under investigation for violations of the Emoluments Clause on a federal level..........and tax invasion on a state level................after having forensic research on his taxes revealing fraud and tax invasion..........you'd have no problem with any of it, right?
     
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    Trump is an actor on a stage .. and a gifted one at that. One could say that Trump is in his perfect role. Trump gets the mob.

    I am not sure what Trump does in his spare time... but the dude doesn't drink .. (and all Presidents should drink - think about it - Sitting with Macron - enjoying a fine bottle of wine from the Presidential cellars - and we all know "wine speaks the truth" and its tradition - and Donald is having grape juice) he has the most horrible diet consisting of McDonalds and over well done $100 steaks consumed with demi glace el Ketchup.

    Already I am thinking ... "no bad habits on the outside (wine and rare steak)" must be something bad on the inside .. its a duality you sometimes see in human personality.

    So what does Donald do with his time ? ... He must believe something .. something above narcissism which is his favorite ..

    And when you address that question - objectively - is when you get into the problem of this particular clown. Shall we start with his Fathers ideological perspective !? (chess notation ?? - game losing blunder, ? - bad move ! - Excellent move, !! - game winning move and finally !? - interesting move) :)

    So what did Daddy think ? -- he was a strong believer in "behavioral determinism" - repackaged/relabeled "Social Darwinism" - the "race horse theory" - survival of the fittest - and that we are the sole product of our genes.

    Further - that structures and hierarchy in society are the natural outcropping - of the genes desire to succeed and improve .. survival of the "genetically fit". And thus these structures are justified. Elitism at its finest.

    Trump is a big believer - in this ideology. - and many of his moves pay tribute to this ideology.

    1) his adoration of people of importance and power ... "genetically fit" .. and his borderline xenophobic distaste for the lower classes "genetically less fit"

    2) Immigration policy ... "check"
    3) Muslim ban "check"
    4) little respect for individual liberty - for the masses - attacks on of freedom of the press, whistleblowers - reauthorized the en mass NSA domestic spying program.
    5) wealth redistribution towards the top - and increased power of this class. "The genetically fit ones"
    6) Maintain the Status Quo Establishment power structure - keeping the little people in their place - less transparency (except when he is being targeted) and more power to Gov't and Police - particularly Police ... Donald loves Police - and the more extreme the better.

    I can go on - and it is not that I agree or disagree with any of the above - a broken clock is correct twice a day -

    The point here is that all of the above can be explained through Daddy's ideological perspective.
     
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    It highlights that it is how all transcripts are made and there was nothing unique about the one trump made public

    Whatever you quoted isn’t the transcript, it’s not even a statement from someone in the room.
     
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    There is no doubt in my mind that being a billionaire, his tax returns will be exceedingly complex. There is also no doubt in my mind that regardless of what is in those tax returns, the left will use that complexity to twist and spin it as negatively as they possibly can.

    With that being the case, I support him fighting the left tooth and nail. No matter what he does, the left will never be happy, so screw them.The only people that care are people that have zero chance of ever voting for him. He has absolutely no incentive whatsoever to cooperate with their whiny nonsense.

    As far as if the tables were reversed, no I am not a petty political type that would care about that type of irrelevant nonsense, although I do realize that lots on the right would also be whining like a little b*tch in a manner that would identically mimic your reaction. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and yes, I do acknowledge that there are people with your same behavior on the right. For me though, I tend to stay away from the petty nonsensical bickering to the best of my ability.
     

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