THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    1. Many of the more pro Russian residents were evacuated from Kherson already. Still, the pro-Russian residents in Kherson have every reason to be upset at Putin abandoning them without a fight. As in other places recaptured by Ukraine, many of them face execution and persecution as Russian collaborators and "traitors."
    2. While my assumption is that a majority in Kherson would have voted for annexation anyway, a referendum which is branded a fraud by Ukraine and its allies even before being conducted, is unlikely to illicit much voter participation by those opposing annexation. So whatever the actual percentage (90% you say) voting for annexation in Kherson city, it will almost certainly hugely overstate support for the move.
    3. Like elsewhere, political divisions often can be geographically mapped, with certain areas more and others less receptive to the UAF. The pictures and videos I have seen appear in the nature of propaganda and none I have seen would establish genuine popular support among even close to a majority for UAF.
     
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  2. Reality

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    Yeah because you conscripted them and have thrown them in to the meat grinder without proper gear.
     
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    Ukrainian Tanks Take On Inexperienced Russian Conscripts In The Kharkiv Region
     
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  4. ricmortis

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    You must be watching the Kremlins media pictures.
     
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  5. Iranian Monitor

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    No. I actually mostly watch western media.
     
  6. PARTIZAN1

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    I grew up in the 1950’ and 1960’s of WWII parents so my Ukrainian heroes were UPA -who fought Germans and Russians with no outside help so I am cautious.
     
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    I do not mean to insult you or your intelligence or reasoning but do you really believe that 90%of the people voted for being part of Russia?? Do you really believe that??????
     
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    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't saying what I believed. I was quoting a reported number. I think the actual number was around 87.8%.
     
  9. PARTIZAN1

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    What are you talking about. Ukrainians have not invaded any Russian territory. Putin unilaterally declaring parts of Ukraine as Russia would be like France declaring the Province of Quebec as being part of France.
     
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    What a joke! 87.8% or 78..7% still a Russian lie. Do you actually believe that Russians run free election? Get real!
     
  11. Esau

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    Why hold Russia to higher standards than anybody else? No country in the west holds free elections. Theyre all rigged in order to keep the big corps in power and to make billions of profit. Get real.
     
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    If the evil empire 3.0 collapses I will party all year and after that go and visit my cousins in Ukraine to party some more.
     
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    Ukraine has no reason to do a referendum any more than the US should do a referendum only for Black people asking if they want to return to slavery.
     
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    That is a load of bovine excrement you stated.
     
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    Any aware intelligent person knows that history shows that Russia never ran an honest election. Get real.
     
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    That would be one great show.
     
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  17. The Scotsman

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    ...yes they have....5 odd looking Ukrainian guys with voddy bottles and dodgy accents put an X on a bit of paper which clearly stated this part of Ukraine is now Russia....so nernernanerner and no backsies...
    In fact I think that's what it stated on the voting form!
     
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  18. Esau

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    Head in sand?
     
  19. Esau

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    No country in the west holds free elections. Theyre all rigged in order to keep the big corps in power and to make billions of profit. Get real.
     
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    Indeed the colors on the map have changed .. but, no too much .. just the beach-front property along the Black Sea to Odessa/ "the river .. being the new border in the south .. still sorting out how far north .. but nothing going to move untill after Winter .. in the meantime .. negotiations are afoot .. they can work out border in the Lugansk -Donesk region.

    and its a done deal mate .. Ukraine gets to keep a corridor to the Black Sea which ends at the River .. Odesa will still thrive .. Which is a good thing .. quite the port city that one .. Russia keeps the rest .. perhaps Vlad can put a new beach-house up .. if he lives long enough

    Either way .. looking like this how the chips going to fall .. Then get to work on getting that Nordstream up and running ... get control of energy inflation in the EU ..

    Folks think its bad here with Gas at 5 buck a gallon .. try paying for power - Heat(gas) in the EU these days . never mind the price of Petrol. .
     
  21. PARTIZAN1

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    BS
     
  22. PARTIZAN1

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    Which means you are not able to support you allegation..
     
  23. PARTIZAN1

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    If it’s not the Bilderbergers it’s the Zionists or the Satanists yeah sure got it…..
     
  24. The Scotsman

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    ...of course it is....??....I'm pulling your leg....
     
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    I am sorry , I knew it did not sound like your history of posting here. I thought you got bought off by the Moskhailnyks…LOL. PS I just read your post again…signed with X that is funny I just missed it..
     
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