The unification of East and West Germany is illegitimate

The exit was agreed and organised under Trump.
Read my quote and look closely at the dates.

 

Yes, of course the U. S. exit from Afghanistan was originally negotiated under Trump, but it can scarcely be said that Trump "organized" what actually happened. After all, Pixie, Trump had been gone from the White House for seven months when Geriatric Joe's handlers botched the whole thing up, got numerous people -- Afghani and Americans -- killed, and abandoned billions of dollars in U. S. military materiel there.

I'm really no big 'fan' of Donald Trump, Pixie, but it's completely unfair to blame the stunning travesty of America's 'bug-out' from Afghanistan on anybody but "Big Guy", Joe Biden! His is the kind of mentality that thought everything must be sacrificed so that he could exclaim the 'feel-good' news of the U. S. being out of there by the next anniversary of "9/11". Super-orgasmic, n'est ce pas?!








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Biden announced the exit date on 1April.
He finished the exit on 31august.
He got about 120,000 people out via one AIRPORT. Including about 5400 Americans. The rest were Afghanis etc.
AFAIK no Americans were killed in the process.
It may have not been perfect. Or tidy. Or easy . But what it looked like isn't IMO the issue. What rankles the US is that you left at all.
That is another story.
The people who really messed up were the British who were hardly prepared even after being warned. The video of Afghanis hanging off the plane was, I believe, a British plane and the UK left behind many personnel who had worked with them, and putting their lives in danger for months if not years. Some never got out.
I dont want to get into moral equivalences but Biden was by no means solely responsible.

 

We lost "only" 13 American military personnel in Biden's maladroit scramble out of Afghanistan, in addition to at least hundreds of Afghanis: https://www.militarytimes.com/flash...es-killed-1-year-ago-in-kabul-airport-attack/ .

We should never have put 'boots on the ground' there in the first place. We had bombed the hell out it with AIR POWER, and that got rid of our only real problem. Then we should simply have left -- issuing a warning that if the Afghan government took any further measures that were inimical to our national existence and peace, that we would certainly fly back over there and bomb the hell out of them AGAIN! That's really all that was necessary....

But, common sense at our high levels of government have been in damned short supply for many years.











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I dont think the Afghan government had much leverage to do anything the Taliban and Al Qaeda didn't want. The Taliban completely controlled large areas of the country...and AFAIK still do. Air power didn't settle issues. It was a classic guerilla war. Some might call it whackamole.
The issue was less about who ran the place and far more about stopping the terrorist breeding grounds which were exporting terror all over the world. They did largely disband but are now bedded into Africa and terrorising people there.
They have pretty much left Europe now the West is leaving them alone.

 

Ahahaha.... Everything is just beginning. And Ukraine is an episode. Next will be a war between the Russians and NATO. Most likely the war will turn into a nuclear conflict.
And the cause of the war is not Ukraine or Russians, the reason is the world economy. However, all wars in the history of mankind had economic prerequisites. Politicians covered up the economic interests of the war with ridiculous talk about religion, human rights, racial issues....and whatever.
But the real reason is economics. In both the US and the EU, the economy consists of inflated bubbles that have begun to burst. Therefore, economic interests are pushing the world into a nuclear apocalypse.
Once again, everything is just beginning

By the way, how many times is Afghanistan smaller than the United States? And how to compare the GDP of the US and Afghanistan?

 

Afghanistan is much smaller when compared to Russia when Russia left in a cloud of dust.

 

We are always ready. Sorry your nonsense scares nobody.

 

It's good that you are ready. It won't be scary to die.
For example, the US government takes the possibility of a nuclear exchange seriously. Even in the New York subway they hung recommendations on how to behave in the event of a nuclear strike.

 

Facebook takes down political influence operations from China and Russia
Published Tue, Sep 27 2022

acebook parent company Meta said it took down two unconnected networks of accounts based in China and Russia for seeking to influence political narratives in the U.S. and Europe.

The platform regularly searches for and removes accounts it believes to have violated its policy against coordinated inauthentic behavior. Such activity became a flashpoint in the U.S. after the 2016 presidential election when intelligence agencies found Russian groups had used social media platforms to push divisive narratives in the U.S.

The Russia-based influence campaign mainly targeted Germany as well as France, Italy, Ukraine and the U.K. Starting in May, a network of more than 60 websites impersonating legitimate news organizations in Europe posted original articles criticizing Ukraine and arguing against Western sanctions on Russia, Meta said. The group would promote the articles and original memes and YouTube videos across platforms including Facebook, Instagram, Telegram, Twitter and Change.org, it added.

... https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/27/fac...fluence-operations-from-china-and-russia.html​

Shame Political Forum won't do the same, eh.

 

You guys can't beat Ukraine and you want to tangle with Nato? Yeah that seems like its going to work out well for you.

You mean Afghanistan which we forcibly occupied for 20 years and only left when our own legislature demanded it? You're not understanding that they didn't force us out, the legislature which rules our nation decided we'd drug our balls across their faces long enough and it was time to go.

 

Yes. Yes .... I saw a video of you voluntarily leaving Afghanistan hanging on the landing gear of aircraft.



However, you also left Vietnam at the request of the legislators.

 

In both photographs, those are locals trying to catch a ride out so the religious extremists taking over don't get to rape their children and wives then murder or enslave them.
You're watching the last bird out of the nation after our legislatures told us to stop lording ourselves over the 3rd world peasants.

 

Oh come on, Durandal, how does CENSORSHIP help anything? Only cowardly, scheming organizations, governments, and regimes practice CENSORSHIP to any degree other than preventing people from "yelling 'Fire!' in a crowded theater"... right?

If some people are too stupid to examine claims made by any organization, whether of the Left or the Right, then they're already a 'lost cause'. But CENSORSHIP is an evil all its own, and in many ways, it is far worse than the influence it seeks to curtail.

 

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Ahahaha....This is how you take care of those who trust you.

 

The way you took such good care of the Afghans when you left, right?

 

Germany was illegally divided in the first place, so East Germany was illegitamate.

 

The reunification of Germany was righting a wrong. The Soviet Union acted illegally in dividing the country.

 

"Yellow Vests" distribute leaflets to passers-by on the street



I advise you to read -
Le plan américain a échoué : 4 régions ukrainiennes choisissent la Russie https://ripostelaique.com/le-plan-a...gions-ukrainiennes-choisissent-la-russie.html

 

No one cares.
Your mistake is that you constantly underestimate the intelligence of those you speak to.
Only the dimmedt believe Putin.

 

This goofy thread is all over the place. So, Purveyor, what is Bloodymir going to do about the "illegitimate" reunification of Germany? March a million poorly armed conscripts in to annex the former DDR?

 

First Alaska, Northern California and New York....Germany later.

 

It will come as a surprise to nobody that the bottom photograph is a fake, and not a very good one. It was done by a Vietnamese guy a few years ago:

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/p...ining-doctored-vietnam-war-photo-3451571.html

The original image is very well known and anyone searching for images of the fall of Saigon would see it time and again. You have to go hunting for the faked image. Sort of makes you wonder how it ended up here instead of the real one.

 

Germany was fortunate it was allowed to exist in any form after what it had done. I was happy enough that it was reunited, but I genuinely don't care about partition or its 'legality'.

Trying to take some moral high ground on the issue is always going to be a losing position.