The Westboro Baptist Church and Their Misuse of the First Amendment

Yet you don;t ask for 'equal harm' if you attacked me because of something I said to your wife ill have you arrested. You will be charged and convicted. Ill then do you in the civil courts.

You are saying that the GOP are physically attacking Obama? or just saying things about him?

 

So you feel people should be able to say anything they want without consequences? No matter the harm they cause? For instance, if I publicly intimate that you are a paedeophile? That seems like a very irresponsible way to do things.

Of course handing you a balck for saying something inappropraite to my wife would be an extreme, although I'd hope you'd have the good manners not to speak to a woman in such a disrespectful manner. I do believe in protecting a womans honor among men. However if someone says something and they end their own career over it, that's pretty much their own fault.

BTW - of course the GOP did not "physically" attack Obama, but the littany of lies they've told will certainly earn them a nice cozy place in hell.

 

If you tell people that I am a paedophile I can sue you for slander. Indeed in the UK I sued someone for Libel last year and got 1500pounds for it

Sure, if they end their career through stupid speech that is their call. I post on places like this becauise In my world I have to be very carefull what I write or say

So your your use of 'attack' was completely irrelevant.

Actually both candidates in your last election disgust me. Obama's politics are cloaser to mine by a very great margin but I find him quite repulsive. No more so than Romney though.

 

I wish that worked here in the states.

 

Sorry I should have said 15000 not 1500.

The US is less friendly to plaintiffs than the UK is.

 

This is the issue in our society... instead of accepting the fact that we all have different values and beliefs we crucify others for thinking differently than we do. Hating each other for having a different perspective on issues is never going to help make any progress in this country. We just need to agree to disagree and get past the fact that not everyone is going to have the same views as we do.

 

I can't believe that we're actually going to suggest violence as the answer to this. They are entitled to their beliefs and free to say what they want... there's absolutely no reason to constitute using violence against them. Rude, ignorant, inconsiderate, and close minded are all ways I'd describe them but I would never condone the use of violence to attempt to get them to think or act how others think they should act. Honestly the use of fear and intimidation and even murder sound eerily like KKK's tactics against African Americans....

 

Somewhere the world's smallest violin is playing, for you.

You can only (*)(*)(*)(*) people off so long before they snap back. Doesn't make it right, but it does happen. If one acts like a jackass, one will get treated like a jackass. What goes around comes around with varying degrees of severity.

 

As I've said, I disagree with them completely. I think they are insane and desperate for attention. Pretty much everything they say is ignorant, stupid, hurtful, and rude. But that doesn't mean that anyone should use violence against them. Multiple states have instituted laws to limit their protests at funerals, and honestly if the media stops giving them the attention they are clearly craving I don't think they will be as much of an issue. Just because they are trying to instigate a fight doesn't mean we should give them one. If attacking or killing everyone who says something stupid or something I disagree really with is what you consider a solution... there's a lot of people who should be dead.

 

Given what these worthless sorts are doing with their life, are they really living? It is more like killing zombies if you ask me.

Creatures so devoid of common sense are best put down. But that is my opinion.

 

So you are advocating murder.

 

Now now now... I didn't say that. But I wouldn't mind if these guys went swimming with cement shoes either. Or if they tripped, fell, and landed on some bullets...

But I never advocated murder.

 

What the WBC does is absolutely ridiculous and uncalled for at funerals of men who fought to defend this country. However, I agree that there is really nothing that can be done about their use of free speech. With that being said, we really need to just ignore them and their actions. All these people want is attention, even if it is negative, as it always is in the news. If we just ignore them completely, their movement will eventually die down; if we react, we just add fuel to their fire and they won't stop their protesting.

 

Westboro followers are simply evil. Yep...I believe in demons and they are working that church. When they display hatred and vile evil behavior and are then called Christian---they get a sick rush. IMHO anyway.

I'm thinking it gives them an adrynline kick...they revel in it. I've passed by them when they picketed hateful statements on the campus of ORU after Oral Roberts died and once in Topeka when we were passing through. Its just weird how the hairs on my arm stood straight up passing by those....people.

The more you call them Christian. The more enjoyment and energy you give them.

 

It's really the media that gives them the notoriety that they have, otherwise they'd just be an irrelevant bunch of inbred kooks.

So to be honest the media is just as bad as they are for promoting them just to make a buck. I'd definitely be for sanctions against the media to ban or prohibit 'exploitation' media.

That and we could just ban picketing of funerals, free speech doesn't have to protect obscene public speech.

 

I agree in the fact that we should put sanctions on the the media to stop them from promoting the WBC just to make money.

However, I think that if we tried to ban picketing of funerals, everything would work out. The WBC would sue the government for violating their Constitutional rights of free speech and would probably win the case (the "family" is full of lawyers and they have won quite a few lawsuits in the past). Furthermore, the law suit would give the WBC even more media attention, which is what they want. I think it would just be better to ignore the group.

 

You are saying that having if people have beliefs that you feel are stupid and/or wrong, that killing them is justified? No, not exactly. That's basically condoning murder....

 

No it isn't. I already addressed this. Read the thread again if confused.