The word racist

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  1. nra37922

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    Lets just say that EVERYBODY is a RACIST and go from there..
     
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    But you agreed with AA, which is state sponsored discrimination. Where do you draw the line?
     
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    I did no such thing. I merely stated the reason for it. Stating a reason for something does not equal agreement.
     
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    This leads me to believe you are in support of discrimination policies.
     
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    Good! Please do.

    The irony is, if it wasn't for people like you, I would be sick of it as well.
     
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    I've been called a racist my whole life... simply for existing... so yeah... blankstare
     
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    Why?
     
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    I've never been called a racist.

    Seems to me, there are generally good reasons why people get labeled racist.

    And why others don't.
     
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    Yes totally... I'm a full on racist... every word I utter every day of my life consist only of pure hatred based on the colour of people's skin... in fact I have now come to include various shades and even found some purple hues to select from that people display within their pigmentation.... this of course leaves them open to all sorts of nasty comments from myself and there is no single moment in my entire life... where I forego the opportunity to display this behaviour
     
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  10. Nunya D.

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    Local news is normally not as divisive as National News or the large network coverage, so it is not surprising that you are not seeing it as much. I am not saying it is as bad as what the OP claims, but the word "racist" is thrown around a lot lately.

    From instance, there are 3 articles on Yahoo right now that claim racism and the only thing that implies racism is that a minority is involved in the article. In one article, someone posted a billboard that was critical of "The Squad". There is no racist wording or even anything that implies racism. The only reason to claim racism is because these 4 are minorities. Could people post a billboard that is critical of white people? They certainly can and have many times over the years.

    Another article is calling 2 TSA agents racist because they put a noose on a stuffed gorilla. That in itself is not racism. Some might see it as poor taste as a noose is a weapon if death, but it is not racism. The people making it about racism are the ones attempting to connect the gorilla as a figure for people of color. If it was a stuffed horse, would it have then been ok? Imo, no it would not be. It was tasteless, but not racist.

    Anymore it seems that the cries of "racism" has nothing to do with racism itself and is used as a means to silence people. It is basically telling people that they can not be critical of people of color. To me, putting a person above criticism, just because of their skin color, is racist in itself.

    As far as people calling others "racist" as a means to win an internet argument or to end the argument altogether, you only need to look at post #80 in this thread. Now he did not come right out and call the person he was replying to as a racist....that would be against the forum rules, and the author of post $80 is apparently much too smart to go there.....however, the implication is certainly there. The author of post #80 provided absolutely no debatable comment and was doing nothing more than flamebaiting and making personal attacks.
     
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    People can be "critical" of people of any background.

    It's interesting that some people don't get that.
     
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    Haha...pointing out that black people have, in fact, been discriminated against, means I’m in favor of discrimination? Holy f**k that is insane.
     
  13. Nunya D.

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    Finally, something that I agree with you on...even if that agreement is still seeing things from a different viewpoint..

    Yes, people can be critical of anybody. However, in many cases (not all), if a person is critical of a person of color then the cries of racism soon follows.....even when the criticism is not directed at the person's color. After Trump's comments on Baltimore, a news reporter was claiming the word "infestation" was a euphemism for black infestation. Now Trump does say many, many insulting, inappropriate, and vile things, but to claim the word "infestation" is a reference to blacks is a very huge stretch. Heck, some people still believe that Smollett was a victim of a hate crime, even after the cornucopia of evidence that has been released.

    It is interesting that some people don't get THAT.
     
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    To me, the key is where people are coming from...it's not always just about a single word...there are patterns of behavior. Some are blatant and some are subtle.

    For example, Trump defenders immediately started shouting about Bernie Sanders comments about Baltimore.

    But anyone with a lick of sense should be able to see the difference.
     
  15. Nunya D.

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    I must not have a lick of sense as I see both of them commenting on the same rat infested neighborhood. So why is Trump's comment more racist? Is it because he is a republican? Is it because he is Trump? Is is because he called out a Congressman who happens to be black? Sanders was even much more critical of the same neighborhood Trump was discussing as he called it "3rd world". So what exactly IS the difference?
     
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    Well for starters, one has to look at where the two are coming from...look at who they are as people, and their histories.

    Sanders was not just blasting someone personally in retaliation, and then throwing the town where they are from under the bus.

    I can't believe you can't see the difference.

    If I say "America has a problem with poverty all over the country"...that's quite different than if I say "the reps in the midwest are all stupid losers and the midwest is a big nasty sh*thole!". And I say this about the midwest because I'm just mad at some rep there, and I'm not really showing any sincere interest in the midwest and the problems they have.

    It's just entirely different.

    Entirely.
     
  17. Nunya D.

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    Good point and I agree in some regards. Trump did make it personal.

    Speaking of making things personal. You might see the quality of discussions you have with others improve if you stop trying to make everything personal yourself. I understand, though. I can be snarky at times as well. However, I normally only resort to snark after it is directed my way. While we have had a few snarky rounds before, I have directed little your way in this discussion.

    Again, good point.....though your example was a bit hyperbolic. What I do see is some people going to great length to paint Trump as racist and are cherry-picking of his words and taking them out of context . Maybe he racist is to some extent...or even a huge extent. However, I am also quite aware that the public image of people and the actual person is often two different things. Although, Trump does make it easier to create an image of him, as it is often his own words that get him in trouble.
     
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    Trump is a pathological liar. He has gotten so bad many think he can no longer differentiate reality from his fantasies. He showed that again today.

    Trump claimed Tuesday that African Americans are so delighted with his attacks on the city of Baltimore and US congressman Elijah Cummings, an African American, that they are calling him at the White House in large numbers to thank him. :roflol::rolleyes: That's surreal.

    "What I've done for African Americans, no president, I would say, has done. Now, I'll say this: they are so happy, because I get the calls. They are so happy at what I've been able to do in Baltimore and other Democratic-run, corrupt cities," Trump said. :roll:

    "The African American people have been calling the White House. They have never been so happy as what a president has done. Not only the lowest unemployment in history for African Americans, not only opportunity zones for, really, the biggest beneficiary the inner city, and not only criminal justice reform. But they're so happy that I pointed out the corrupt politics of Baltimore. It's filthy dirty. It's so horrible. And they are happy as hell," Trump added.:icon_jawdrop: He didn't say what they are happy about.

    Trump began talking negatively about Cummings and Baltimore in a series of tweets on July 27. In a Quinnipiac University poll conducted from July 25 to July 28 -- two days before the tweets, the day of the tweets, and one day after the tweets -- Trump had a 6% approval rating and 84% disapproval rating with black voters. Eighty percent of black voters said Trump is racist, while just 11% said he is not.

    https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us07292019_uymr53.pdf/

    BTW, in case anyone is wondering, other polls are quite similar.

    Of course, Trump talks only to his base. They are the only ones gullible enough to believe him, but are they really that gullible and uninformed?
     
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    Link is still good, might want to check your settings.

    So you simply gave up, not attempting to find a study that was widely reported, even in the leftist media.

    OK, and I'm wrong to suggest you're way too comfortable in your echo chamber...
     
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    Looks like you're relatively new here; they are out there, usually when the person I'm debating gives up and flees the thread...
     
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    Again, studies can be biased. Apparently you just believe everything you read. It was on the internet so it must be true, amiright?
     
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    No they aren't.
     
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    I can't say if this a good or bad thingy.That repeated overuse of
    words can and do lead to complacency and irrelevance.As is the
    case with the Boy who Cried Wolf.The moral of the story is that
    consequences are forthcoming.Reaped use of Lying as the
    Boy who Cried Wolf demonstrates leads to how others
    will treat you.They will refuse to believe you.
    This is the real life dilemma facing these Democrats and their
    toadies in the MSM.
    It hasn't hit them yet,but inevitably will.Because it's as Unamerican
    to think that Lying will be just A-Ok.No Biggie.Because everybody's
    doing it.That's Devil talk.Prison talk.Devil/Prison think.
    Which is why Obama plied on most every occasion use of Doublethink
    combined with Groupthink.
    " I mean,why not.If you can get away with it. " - On the Waterfront -
    By Charley The Gent.
     
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    And WHY " ain't " they real news { no drum role needed }.
     

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