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'The worst briefing I've had': Senate Iran briefing gets heated

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Andrew Jackson, Jan 8, 2020.

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  1. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hyperbole. Overstatement. Deceit.
     
    Labouroflove, Jan 8, 2020
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  2. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Iran is afraid to shoot straight.
     
    AFM, Jan 8, 2020
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't mind that he is dead at all. He has deserved for years. But you don't get to hide behind that to avoid answering for the fact that it was done outside the official channels that are in place for a reason, and likely done to distract from the damaging emails released literally the day before.

    Trump gets kudos for taking him out. That's about the only part in this whole thing he got right

    Uh...what? I'm really hoping that was a misunderstanding of my post because you couldn't possibly be arguing that because someone responded after the fact, means they knew about the attack prior. Because if that were true, then you'd be suggesting they allowed the attack to occur so they could respond as such....
     
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    Cubed, Jan 8, 2020
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  4. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Senator Mike Lee's leap...not mine.
     
    stone6, Jan 8, 2020
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  5. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    The writer of Idiocracy said much the same, but he was specifically talking about the support for trump.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 8, 2020
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    I wonder if you realize that you are solely reliant on the "swamp" as the source for your claim that this guy had anything to do with 600 dead Americans?

    Also, I wonder if you afforded Obama the same extreme autonomy to make military decisions and will you continue to justify all future Presidential decisions made unilaterally on military issues when the President is a Democrat?

    Finally, I wonder if you recognize that your justification for his death has almost nothing to do with the justification that is legally required nor does it have anything to do with the justification offered by the Reump administration. If you want to kill someone because they pose an imminent threat, then you need to prove an imminent threat existed - not simply point to previous bad acts.
     
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    MrTLegal, Jan 8, 2020
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    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For now...

    Let's consider for a moment what the US response would be had Iran assassinated the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    This isn't over. Not by a long shot.
     
    Ericb760, Jan 8, 2020
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  8. Bush Lawyer

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    Bush Lawyer, Jan 8, 2020
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Soleimani is responsible for hundreds of thousands deaths of innocent people.

    A President of the United States has to prove nothing to act to protect US citizens. The founders knew this and provided the means in the Constitution.
     
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    AFM, Jan 8, 2020
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    No conflation going on there, ey? 100,000s of innocent people were all US citizens?
     
    Bush Lawyer, Jan 8, 2020
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course not.
     
    AFM, Jan 8, 2020
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  12. stone6

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    By giving the power to declare war to Congress.
     
    stone6, Jan 8, 2020
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    So.....how many US citizens did he notch up?
     
    Bush Lawyer, Jan 8, 2020
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    This will not be tolerided any longer! We're going to get to the oranges of this!
     
    Durandal, Jan 9, 2020
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  15. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who has declared war ???
     
    AFM, Jan 9, 2020
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  16. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s disgusting. How many Australians did he “notch up” ??? You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
    AFM, Jan 9, 2020
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  17. FatBack

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    Do you ever tire of "predicting" the political winds?
     
    FatBack, Jan 9, 2020
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  18. stone6

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    Sanctions, assassinations would probably qualify as "acts of war."
     
    stone6, Jan 9, 2020
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    This is all a bunch of complaining about nothing. The DEM talking points don't match the reality of the situation.

    Iraq has already been designated by Congress as an active war zone.

    Bottom line: Trump didn't need any reason whatsoever to take out a person who was on the active list of international terrorists who was physically on the ground in Iraq. Obama did the same thing and even targeted US citizens who were hanging out with enemy combatants.

    In contrast, Obama went into Pakistan with no such Congressional approval.


    List of persons, groups and entities referred to in Article 1

    15.
    SOLEIMANI Qasem (a.k.a. Ghasem Soleymani, a.k.a. Qasmi Sulayman, a.k.a. Qasem Soleymani, a.k.a. Qasem Solaimani, a.k.a. Qasem Salimani, a.k.a. Qasem Solemani, a.k.a. Qasem Sulaimani, a.k.a. Qasem Sulemani), born 11.3.1957 in Iran. Iranian national. Passport number: 008827 (Iran Diplomatic), issued 1999. Title: Major General.
     
    Esperance, Jan 9, 2020
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  20. FatBack

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    Match or exceed.
    "Criminal In Chief" — 78 Times President Obama Broke The ...

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    By: The Free Thought Project Here's a list of at least 75 times President Obama violated the Constitution and/or broke federal law during his presidency: 1) ...
    You've visited this page 2 times. Last visit: 12/15/19
     
    FatBack, Jan 9, 2020
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  21. Andrew Jackson

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    So you are rejecting the premise Lee and Rand Paul will fall back in line?

    I guess time will tell.:salute:
     
    Andrew Jackson, Jan 9, 2020
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  22. AFM

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    So what ???
     
    AFM, Jan 9, 2020
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  23. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong. U.S. Forces are in Iraq and the invitation and approval of the Iraqi government, a sovereign nation. Doesn't matter whether the Congress considers it a "war zone" or not.
     
    stone6, Jan 9, 2020
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  24. stone6

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    So...the President doesn't declare war. Congress does.
     
    stone6, Jan 9, 2020
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  25. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    When was war declared?
     
    FatBack, Jan 9, 2020
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