its been a political tool in the beginning, liberals started their racial hate crime BS right out the gate. no go away with your hypocrisy.
Trayvon was on the phone with a friend that was a girl (not determined if it was girlfriend). Only minutes before police arrived according to phone records. Trayvon was moving away from, trying to get away from, a person stalking him. If Zimm was on the way back to his SUV, Trayvon is not about to all the sudden decide to go after Zimm who he was trying to avoid in the first place. His father did not say that was not Trayvon's screaming. His father said he was not sure. His Mother was sure. A voice analyzes will determine. I believe it was Trayvon. I believe his mother. I believe what I hear. Even if Trayvon got the better of a predator that was after him, he had every right to defend himself. If Trayvon became confrontational , Zimm should have stepped back. He was the one stalking the kid. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj4RHJ0taoc&feature=related"]Trayvon Martin 911 Tape Screaming "Help" - YouTube[/ame]
I didn't say that you stated you wanted to close the case. Read my post again: what I said was that, without the outcry over this story, the case WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED! So, as a supporter of a thorough investigation. . .you should be glad that there was enough outcry to keep the investigation open, and to pass it on to people who didn't have a history of bias, as the Sanford Police department reportedly has. And, I am actually an Independent, who happens to be a big supporter of Obama. If Obama was anything other than a Democrat. . .I would still support him, because I trust and admire him more than ANY other politiciens in the field. . . except maybe for H. Clinton! By the way. . .I am not sure what this has to do with this thread! I am not at all happy that this is turning out to be so political. For me, as a grand mother, I see it as the worthless killing of a kid who could have been my grandson. . .the color of his skin is a moot point for me.
Face it ... a woman-beating cop-assaulting self-proclaimed neighborhood-watch white-hispanic thug shot-to-death an unarmed black teenage boy walking down the street with his skittles and ice tea while talking to his girlfriend ... This is undisputed ... This murdering wacko would be behind bars facing the death-penalty if Martin was white ...
so you have people on your side that only heard something, while another person saw part of the altercation. you nor i know anything about what truly happened other than the few quotes that have been given to us, only Treyvon and Zimmerman know what happened from beginning to end. stop pretending you know the whole truth when none of us do.
first of all this is what you said word for word........... ."why would you support "closing the case" without a full, unbiased investigation by authorities that do not have a history of bias in their community? " o im wondering where you get that i support "closing the case" when i never said as such? you might have got me crossed with someone else but i really want to know what happened and see that justice is served either way. i too do not like hearing about any kid being shot, it kills me when i hear the next story about a rising athelete or scholar gets their lives cut short. i dont like violence to kids. stupid assumptions (*)(*)(*)(*) me off more than anything, in this case its all assumptions since we dont know what really happened.
And you really believe that the pictures posted by Cessna were "fair" and represented the "real" Trayvon? He can't even post the factual proof that these demonizing pictures were of Trayvon. . .and I believe they were NOT. However, I did post a REAL picture of Trayvon, one taken 6 months ago. . .is that recent enough for you? I don't think teenagers (especially boys) usually like to have their pictures taken every month! http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o628/trayvonslimmmartin/trayvonrecent.jpg
Good for you, honeybun. That may well be a recent pic of tray. Now why didn't the liberal press use that instead of the pic when tray was a pre-teen?
Too bad Martin wasn't breaking into houses in his hoodie ... maybe evidence of this lawlessness will *mysteriously show-up* and save your boy Zimmerman ... Sad.
Got that right. Hell zimm is not a redneck white boy. He's a hispanic jew, though you'd never know that from watching TV.
And why did you avoid posting the WHOLE of my question, which included a comment that stated I believed your statement that you would welcome a full investigation? And why did you quote only "part" of the question I asked you? The FULL question I asked INCLUDED a recognition that you had stated you would welcome a full investigation: The point I was making is that, without the public outcry that you seem to reject, there would NEVER HAVE BEEN a full investigation, and therefore both your and my opinion that this case deserve a FULL, UNBIASED investigation, and a second look at the "stand your ground law" and the way it is being applied would never have happened.
...hind site is always 20/20...the only reason this whole thing is an issue is because it was a black kid killed instead of a white one...if he were white all these libs in this topic would be saying "served him right!"... Kabuki Joe
Now what is it that makes you think this Martin and the founder of all Protestant churches, Martin Luther, have different beliefs? He was black, non-hispanic and lived in Florida. That makes it about 90% he's a Baptist of one form or another. But wait. Martin was black. U guess that means he can't be Christian for the same reason Barrack Obama can't be Christians. No "f***ing c**ns" in heaven.
...if it was a straight white male then I might believe it, but a white woman?...I don't buy it...there's a line of white women lined up at the door of every prison in the US looking to marry a serial killer because she can change him...my daughter called me up at work yesterday crying because her fish died, and she's 25 years old...everyone in my office now thinks I have a crazy daughter...yes, this is bias... Kabuki Joe
Martin was not trespassing and unless you have a link to an official police report or citation you should retract the misstatement.
Let me ask this question. If the gun were in Martin's hand instead of Zimmerman's. That is, every other fact remains the same except Martin ends up killing Zimmerman with Zimmerman's gun. Do you really think Martin would not be sitting in the Seminole county jail today on a capital murder charge? The police on the scene closed the case immediately. "Righteous kill." Black banger looking for an easy score. No reason to doubt the word of Zimmerman. After all, he's "white", lives in the neighborhood, performing a public service. They had no reason to check Martin's background or the 911 call or Martin's cell records, or anything else. Just bag 'em, tag 'em and hit the 7-11 for a refill. The police and prosecutors had closed the case and moved on. Were it not for the efforts of Martin's parents this would have simply disappeared. Don't blame the MSM for uncovering the stink. blame the people who made it. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sear...get=adv_article&srchType=advSearch&range=cust
Yes, I already asked this poster where she got that information of "trespassing" but without any result! I think it is really too bad that, when people give misleading information, or (to give the benefit of the doubt) make a honest mistake and make an eroneous statement, they do not have the integrity to correct their statement once they find out they were wrong!
Your statement is offensive to every White woman! But. . .considering where it comes from. . .I will consider it just constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth!
first of all Cessna is not the mainstream media, Cessna does not control what millions see on tv. second of all the media painted the kid as this little tiny boy by showing pics of him when he was like 12. im sorry but the media has a hell of alot more sway than any single poster on this board or this board as a whole. and lastly teenagers get their pics taken atleast every week by their (*)(*)(*)(*)ed cellphones and friends cellphones or their web cams. im betting his friends and girlfriends have lots of pics of him, oh but no we cant show those now can we???? that would just take away the look they tried to give treyvon.
ummmm are you reading my (*)(*)(*)(*)ing posts? are you having a hard time comprehending my words??? I WANT A (*)(*)(*)(*)ING INVESTIGATION BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED SO JUSTICE CAN BE SERVED. I HAVE NEVER SAID OR WANTED IN ANYWAY FOR THIS TO BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG, NEVER KNEW IT WAS GONNA JUST BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. so please wherever you are getting these thoughts in your head that i was not for an investigation or whatever it is you are trying desperately to paint me as, let it go from your memory and understand the whats in capital letters. ill have your apology now.