There is a solution to school shootings

First of all having schools as a gun free zone is just plain stupid and is not working.

The solution is armed teachers and security people. One of the best suggestions is have retired people, veterans and police volunteers to patrol the schools. Post signs that some teachers and all security patrols are armed and authorized to use deadly force on anyone that puts students in danger.

 

There are multiple solutions.

Assault weapons ban

Better back ground checks

Bump stock and trigger alteration ban

Magazine capacity regs

Or we can do nothing and just let our kids be gunned down

 

Parkland has armed security. Most schools do nowadays.

Don’t you Rightists usually spend your time condemning teachers as “liberal progressive Snowflakes out to brainwash your children” and now you want them all armed?

Also, a teacher or a security guard with a handgun and maybe a couple magazines is going to be pretty outgunned by someone with an AR-15 and several magazines like the Parkland shooter.

 

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""""There is a solution to school shootings"""



No, there isn't, there hasn't been, there won't be , only arguing the same arguments and doing nothing....

 

One at a time.

1. Assault weapons ban - Let's look at the results when Clinton did this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-weapons-in-one-post/?utm_term=.8f56163f18b6
From the article - Did the law have an effect on crime or gun violence? While gun violence did fall in the 1990s, this was likely due to other factors. Here's the UPenn study again: "We cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation’s recent drop in gun violence. And, indeed, there has been no discernible reduction in the lethality and injuriousness of gun violence."

One reason is that assault weapons were never a huge factor in gun violence to begin with. They were used in only 2 percent to 8 percent of gun crimes. Large-capacity magazines were more important — used in as many as a quarter of gun crimes. But, again, the 1994 law left more than 24 million magazines untouched, so the impact was blunted.

2. Better Background checks - Background checks now search for criminal record, mental record, dishonorable military discharges, unlawful immigration status, an open warrant, a documented history of domestic violence, and drug use. What more would you suggest that would make a difference?

3. Bump stock and trigger alteration ban - How many bump stocks are used in criminal activity? Las Vegas is the first that most people knew they existed. By trigger alterations, if you are inferring something similar to the bump stock.....same as the bump stock. If we get 10 years down the road and these items are being used in an increasing amount, then you have cause to talk about a ban.

4. Mag capacity - Here is an informative video demonstrating why this is an uneducated/uninformed statement.

5. Do nothing and let our kids die - If that is what you want that terrible, because nothing you have posted before this will make a difference.
Why did he choose the school?
Why did he feel that shooting people was the answer?
Why, with all of the information we now know was someone not told?
Why, if people were told did nothing get done.
These are just a few of the questions that need to be asked in all situations. The gun is simply the ends to the means, and not the root of the problem. You must kill the root......if you don't kill the root, but simply cut off a limb it will simply grow back.

 

The great trick is to abolish education altogether and spend the long days shooting one another out of the windows.

 

Same excuses over and over.

Just pull out the playbook every time a dozen or two kids get killed and DO NOTHING

 

Not surprisingly, you want an arms race. Teachers spending all their time on weapons training instead of educating kids. That's going to work well...

I am also sure you would like to raise everyone's taxes to pay for those security guards?

The more resources we spend on defense, the less resources we have for being productive. Is that what conservatives want? A society armed to the teeth where everyone spends every waking moment thinking about defending themselves rather then thinking about the next groundbreaking innovation?

 

Excuses, excuses....

Tell us, why could a teenager who was known to everyone to be emotionally disturbed get his hands on assault weapons? Only in America.

 

If you believe that data gathered of information over time are excuses.....that explains a lot on why we are still talking about this subject.

The first statement in your post is disturbing, but the second was spectacular. You have asked a question that matters and could make a difference!

Problems CAN NOT be solved through emotional outbursts, they must be solved using solid information regarding why the problem is occurring.

Which one of my statements was an excuse BTW. Last I learned facts weren't excuses.

 

I heard on last night's Mark Levin Talk Radio Show the notion
that some Liberals are advocating.Some kind of act that declares
War to be Outlawed.That it is possible to create some kind of
Globally Universal law declaring War to be Outlawed.
Similar to the notion of Outlawing Guns.But it is Impossible to
Outlaw evil.That is Humanity's one indisputable Achilles heel.
That no matter how good and uncorrupted a Society or Country,
Evil has Historically Always reared it's head.
One exception may be Marlon Brando's personal favorite
spot on Earth.His view of Paradise.
Or ... Tahiti

 

Schools are soft targets and occasionaly this is going to happen and there's nothing you can do about it unless you turn schools into prison like complexes with walls around them topped with razor wire and have armed guards at access gates with metal detectors. Or you could home school which would be safer and your kids would get an education instead of a liberal indoctrination. Win win.

 

The fallacy of liberal regulation is that once guns aren't available, they'll have to figure out rental trucks... or pressure cookers.. The issue isn't that guns kill, it's that there are folks who want to kill, and they have them available. Not having a gun doesn't stop the murderous intent. Ask the nice folks at ISIS how not having guns has stopped their murderous intent.

 

This is a great indication that everything you say after this is going to be complete garbage.

 

Only the US suffers this grotesque problem, and (amongst advanced countries) only the US is armed to the teeth to please the NRA. Go figure!

 

You have a very low view of Americans. Why not make the NRA a joint defendant in every gun-murder? Makes more sense than these gun-nut fantasies.

 

Good question. And how could he afford it working at a dollar store? Those rifles are expensive, and just heard one would set you back a couple of grand. Even if that price is inflated, you are still looking at over a grand easy.

One thing is for sure. It is virtually impossible to stop people like this from getting their hands on a gun. All the laws in the world cannot stop it.

It might give people a greater sense of security if we had armed school guards, several of them, but schools may not want to spend the money. Even if it didn't stop all future shootings, this might at least help in minimizing them.

Arming the teachers and sending them to gun school just seems way out there to me. A bad idea.

 

Only in America, because your politicians arer ****-scared of the NRA.

 

The more freedoms you take away the safer society is. It's beyond guns though, something has changed in America. This whole school shooting thing is a recent phenomenon that was unheard of when I was growing up and when kids went to school in hunting season with rifles in their pickups so they could go hunting after school. Something else is going on here. Too many broken homes? Too many working mom's?

 

Why not include the NAACP or the ACLU? You seem intent on making a point that is unsupportable It clearly ignores that you cannot and don't have an answer to the underlying problem that is the folks with murderous intent.

 

To many who simply believe consequences never apply to them. Or, that the consequences of their acts are better than their current situation.

 

Too many graphically violent movies that glamorize cold blooded killers? Movies made by oh so liberal Hollywood.

 

Ah the old guns don't kill, people kill argument.
True to a point but incomplete.
Guns don't kill. People with guns kill.
People with knives, hammers, scissors, pressure cookers, etc... try to kill but are far, far less likely to succeed than someone with a gun. When's the last time you heard of a three year old accidentally killing his baby sister with a kitchen knife?
I don't have a problem with guns, my problem is with the idiots that don't know how to protect their families from their own guns. I object to the idiots that store their guns in a fashion that makes them easily stolen. And I object to the stupid idiots that think having guns in their house makes them safer.

 

OH YA, "too many working MOM'S"....be sure to always blame women for every evil......the MALES do the shooting and the women get blamed....pure crap.

How about higher wages so ONE PARENT CAN stay home?

Or do you want women at home bearing all the responsibility for raising the kids so SHE can be blamed for what they do and daddy gets off with no blame since he isn't ever home...????


How about the fact that there's too much emphasis on war and shooting guns as "good" and "honorable" and, HAHA, "manly" ???

 

I suppose that folks who don't have guns in their houses but think the police have their safety at heart are then what? Suckers?

I would ask those who have been the victims of improvised bombs or trucks/busses as missiles how "non-effective" they thought those methods were. I believe that we have seen just how the intent to murder cannot be stopped by simply regulating the weapons that may have otherwise also been used to satisfy that intent. The method of the delivery of that intent becomes irrelevant to those effected, wouldn't you agree? If someone is hacked to death by a machete does it make that person less dead than had they been shot with a weapon?