There is STILL no such thing as "race"! But there IS such thing as racism.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. They can't. They could tell your most likely ethnic group with a high degree of certainty if they know exactly WHERE the bones were found and they make certain assumptions. For example, that they belong to a person who is local to that area. NOT "race" Anthropologists don't even use the term "race"

    BTW, if you were going to pick one, you shouldn't have chosen one that is debunked by the American Anthropological Association in the link on the OP.
     
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    The only racism I ever see is from democrats and their pet media. Why is that?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's for sure. Look at the article in the thread that @Darthcervantes is promoting.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can this concept be exploited?
    For example, can I tell my boss "there is no job, only paychecks, keep sending them to me while I sleep and watch TV"

    What If i'm checking out of a hotel and i say "there is no bill"?

    You know, the more I read into this, the more I like it!
     
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    Regretfully racism is not limited to social institutions. There is another subtle form of racism which good people like yourself should confront: The tools of racism.
     
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  6. Steve N

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    Golem, you can't hate something that you say doesn't doesn't exist.

    Not only globally, but also right down to small neighborhoods, dominant groups exist. Back in the day the Italians were the dominant group in NYC and on today's street corners other dominant groups exist. I once lived in Puerto Rico and guess what? Puerto Ricans are the dominant group there and no one ever said they have special privileges even though once the shop people discovered I was a gringo the prices went up. Ever been to El Paso? I lived there for 2 years and the people of Mexican heritage are the dominant group. In that city if you're not somehow connected to someone you'll have a hard time getting a job unless you were recruited nationally, and by connected, I mean you're of Mexican heritage and another person of Mexican heritage will hire you instead of an outsider based on that.

    Where there are people there are going to be dominant groups, you will even see that in a litter of puppies. Some will dominate based on intelligence, others, like the Italians of 70 years ago in NYC, by force. And I don't know what your fixation with white Christians is all about. If you take a handful of white Christians and drop them in Afghanistan, China or Iran I doubt they'll be dominant.
     
  7. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me throw this out there because this was once part of a discussion in one of my old college classes: If dogs evolved to where some breeds are bigger, some are smaller, some are aggressive, some are docile and some are smarter than others, does it stand to reason the same evolution occurred in humans?

    Edit: A UCLA study suggests intelligence is inherited. Unless intelligence evolved equally around the world, it's logical to assume certain groups would have more intelligence than others. We can also see the physical variations by different groups which all those groups to generally perform certain activities better than others. In some places the more physical groups might dominate, in other the more intelligent groups might.

    Study gives more proof that intelligence is largely inherited

    https://www.uclahealth.org/news/study-gives-more-proof-that-intelligence-is-largely-inherited
     
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    No sir that’s blatantly incorrect. Anthropologists base those determinations upon your skull and bone shape as well as other physical characteristics of your bones. They don’t need to know where your bones were located.
     
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    I'm fairly fluent in Spanish and I have noticed this too. As an experiment I took the same taxi trip once in Mexico (once in spanish, once in english)...the english ride was definitely a higher price!
     
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    They don’t debunk anything. The anthropologists don’t assert there’s no difference in the physical characteristics between the races. They assert they SHOULDNT point those out because of divisiveness. There is absolutely no scientific foundation for asserting the races don’t exist. That is a purely social dogma based on nothing more than political correctness because of the implications that occur if there are scientifically determined races.

    The idea race does not exist is wholly and entirely preposterous.
     
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  11. Steve N

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    Once I figured out how gringos were going to have higher prices than the locals, I would take an employee with me and let him do all the talking like he was going to buy the item. I did the same thing once I married a Puerto Rican woman.
     
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    Sounds like you have a personal issue with a random guy on the internet. On the topic you created, it is unlikely you will find buyers.
     
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    The first thing I learned to say in Spanish while in PR was Dame cerveza pendejo.
     
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    is it OK to PM you with some questions about PR? I don't want to hijack @Golem 's thread and this is one of the places I was considering moving to. I'm looking to retire some place warm (still got a good 10-20 years to go) but still want the rights I have in USA.
     
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    Or course they can. Look at how many Trump loyalists hate the DOJ handling of the Mar-a-Lago raid, for example, and not a single one can say what it is they hate.

    Don't try to debate this here, though. There was a thread where I asked that question and nobody could respond. If you have an answer, post it there. Here I'll just ignore it.

    But the point is that people can CERTAINLY hate things that don't exist. Usually because they confuse the thing that doesn't exist with something that does.
     
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    Sure. Have at it.
     
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    Ahhh, trying to spin it now :) Well least wise we have cleared up the "their are no races" nonsense ;)
     
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    Wrong!

    Even when they know where the person lived, the margin of error is large. And it increases if they don't know the geographical origin.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1556-4029.14513

    And they shouldn't because so many mistakes are made.

    Forensic Anthropology still exists, but it's doomed to die. And, from what I've seen, it's forensic Anthropologists who are most eager to see it gone.
     
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    From your source:

    Herein, we argue two primary points: (i) we urge an immediate moratorium on the use of morphoscopic cranial traits in the estimation of ancestry given the lack of comprehensive inquiry into why the traits exist and the fact that their use serves to bolster the debunked biological race concept;


    Notice they don’t say they don’t exist, they say there’s not a comprehensive inquiry into why they do. But rather than suggest a comprehensive inquiry as to why they exist, they suggest simply ignoring it. And why? Because those inconvenient facts happen to bolster the race concept which THEY claim has been debunked while in the same breath claiming they don’t know why those facts exist.

    That is a PERFECT example of what I said earlier. They acknowledge those facts and differences exist, but they don’t want to deal with them because they support the idea of race as a reality.
     
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    WOW that's some left field spin! But I'll bite, what are some things that don't exist that are hated ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Hmm.. I don't actually "hate" anything. I have suggested, several times that the tactics used were heavy handed and designed literally to create a show of force to the american people. If this isn't the case, why else send in the goon squad at all? I've seen your posting, so, I am sure that your explanation of why folks hate applies to how you post. It is interesting, as a tactic of persuasion that you admit to it.
     
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    If you're talking about institutional racism... for sure. Institutional racism refers to the privileges by the dominant ethnic group. In most of Latin America it's White Catholic males (of the corresponding nationality). Institutions are built to favor them. In Iran it's probably Muslim males....

    I don't know PR, but in most hispanic countries, you say pendejo to a bar tender, you better have the proper muscle mass or it's more likely you get your cerveza directly in your face, rather than in a bottle. ;-)
     
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    Isn't this what your OP demonstrates?
     
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    Huh?
     
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    What's your beef? You led out with the subject change?
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    I suppose there is a special meaning to the blog reference. Sort of like no such thing as
    And were shown differently
     
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