This Cosby bidness

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    Somethin like that.Tawana either stayed out too late or tried to run away
    from home for a couple days.So she concocted a story to make it appear as if
    she got kidnapped.
    I see where Bill Cosby jumped-in and pledged his support and helped
    raise funds for a legal fund.
     
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    Today a Federal judge in Philadelphia has barred Bill Cosby from
    attending the deposition his accuser gives in her defamation suit against
    a former district attorney.
    But the judge says Cosby's lawyers can review the deposition afterward
    to be sure Andrea Constand didn't violate the confidentiality settlement of her
    2005 lawsuit against Cosby.
    13 women are awaiting whether they will be allowed to take the stand as
    witness to prove a pattern of behavior from Cosby.
     
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    I am not trying to defend or spread compassion for the likes of Bill Cosby.
    I'm merely suggesting this.Just Imagne you are Bill Cosby.Ever since his
    first gig on TV - I Spy - then 2 popular TV venues.One as a high school gym teacher
    { Chet Kincaid} and the other as Voice { Fat Albert }. then onto some almost
    slapstick Moves alongside the Great Sidney Poitier.Then his many years as
    a standup { more like sitting down } Comic.With The most popular of it's day
    TV family show - The Cosby Show -.
    The guy was the very notion of what we refer to as an Icon.
    Then in the space of just a few years the Guy is barely mentioned in
    Hollywood,he is shunned,like no other Hollywood type in memory.
    More so than Fatty Arbuckle { kinda made a comeback } and then Charlie
    Chaplain. Now Cosby is virtually all on his own.Somewhat like Robert Blake.
    Has there ever been such a Fall From Grace in the annals of Hollywood.
    Not even for O.J. Simpson who was more a Sports legend than any Hollywood
    actor.But even still.The " Juice " managed to attract an entourage to help
    him into fancy restaurants and Golf Clubs.Not so with Cosby.
    He is firmly enscunced in Hiding.Like I said in my OP.
    I had 2 hero in high school.Marlon Brando and Bill Cosby.
    When I went to college my new hero was Pot .And my sidekick was beer.
    But still.Has there ever been such a dramatic and deep Fall from Grace ever
    in Hollywood.I mean, Alfalfa { of The Little Rascals } turned out to be a
    troublemaker.Ended up getting shot to death over a $ 50 dispute he felt owed him.
    Tommy Kirk was blacklisted for merely attending a Hollywood underground
    swingers party where the Cops busted over complaints of Pot.Kirk was a fine
    actor and a favorite at Disney.But he was a closet gay.His career was over.
    Q Scores { which is new to me } ranked Cosby currently as The most disliked
    celebrity in recent American memory.With a current score of 43.
    meaning 43% of adults has given him a negative rating.
    That score was 52 last year.And in 2013 it was 9.
    The highest negative Q score was accomplished by Kim Kardashian at 71.
    And 2nd highest was Justin Bieber at 63.
    The Irony here being that in the 1980's The Cos had one of The Highest Q scores
    ever as far as likability and popularity with 70.
     
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    You say 'just imagine you are Bill Cosby" then you list his tv credentials, along w/a long, long, long list of other tv stars and their shows....what do they have to do w/this? Nothing......

    So what if Cosby had tv shows and was a popular tv personality? Yeah, he made it to the top, convinced the public he was a 'fine, decent man'. He had everyone fooled b/c inside him was a vile, malevolent PERVERT who got his sexual gratification from drugging and raping women who believed him to be a 'fine, decent man'...he did this for DECADES, but his glory days came to an end, the halo was ripped off his head and he was exposed for what he REALLY is...and that right there is the justice for his 60 victims and for the world to know what and who Bill Cosby really is......

    His brought on his own 'fall from grace'......
     
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    In the very least in the world of Most TV Investigators { Columbo or Barnaby Jones
    or Cannon } the question that inevitably would have been asked and Investigated
    is WHY. As in Why would a Person { a huge successful TV star } risk everything
    just for a few kicks.A few one night stands.Leading to the deduction that Cosby
    suffered some inner psychological craving or aberration.
    He was not at all himself at the time of his crafty sexual assaults.
    Or possibly that was precisely who Bill Cosby was.
    Which is no excuse.But I'd like to know what made him compelled to do it.
    He must have been compelled.Not simply the average Porn jones.
    or maybe it was. He couldn't be caught renting or buying Porn.Or
    going to a Brothel.But,like I stated in my original OP,the tip off for me
    was when The Cos was seen entering the famous L.A. Playboy mansion
    with some chick.His snide,off the cuff comment he made to Father { Peter Lawford }
    and Son { Christopher } on the front porch of the Mansion.That did it for me.
    That was NOT the Bill Cosby I came to know.WHO was that Person.?
    What was he doing casually and with bravura,walking into the Famous
    House of Hugh Hefner.
    You solve crimes with the little stuff.The details.
    Like in - Barnaby Jones - or - Columbo - or - Cannon -.
    I was brought up on - Perry Mason -. I know this stuff.
    Do You ?
     
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    For gawd's sake! What you 'know' is Hollywood fiction shows! You can't seem to discuss anything w/o bringing up a bunch of movies & stars. Hollywood seems to be your whole life...try getting into the real world.

    Obviously, Cobsy has a deep-seated twisted perversion about women inside him that he had succeeded in hiding for his whole life, displaying a perfected persona of being 'the greatest guy in the world'......until he got caught. And eventually sickos like him, regardless of who they are, will get caught. Why he is the way he is should be left up to the board-certified psychiatrists......not "Perry Mason" or "Colombo" or whatever tv detective you admire.

    I wouldn't call what he did to women 'a few kicks' but something a helluva lot more depraved and deep down into a dark world where he needs to have total control that normal people can't possibly comprehend...but as we all know, people like him do exist.

    And I wouldn't be at all surprised if his wife was aware of his depravity.
     
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    Today,this Friday,another Cosby accuser made an attempt to
    revive a lawsuit directed at Bill Cosby.Former teen actress,Renita Hill
    of Pittsburg who appeared on an educational children's TV show as a
    teenager with Bill Cosby in the 1980's.
    No ... Bill Cosby was not a teenager also.
    Nevertheless a Pittsburg judge dismissed Hill's defamation lawsuit.
    Cosby lawyer Martin Singer called the new accounts " fantastical " ridiculous "
    and " Illogical " and beyond " absurd ".
    However ... are they true.? This may be what Cosby lawyers are attempting.
    Making it sound ludicrous as to America's Dad { Dr. Huxtable } and noted
    clean comedian being guilty of such allegation.
    This is why I harp on hard evidence.Cosby does have his years of Icon
    status to fall back on.But that seems to have withered on the vine.
    But lawyers have a way of getting their clients off.Bill Cosby is not your
    average lawsuit client.He has money,power and position to help back up
    his seemingly insufficient even non-existent claims of being wronged and
    totally innocent.There's no way that Bill Cosby could be that slick and
    carefull.There must be some obvious evidence that is begging to be uncovered.
     
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    Today in Pretrial motions the Cosby Lawyers tried to plead the case,
    Again,that the sexual assault case against client Bill Cosby needs to
    be thrown out.
    " Sparring with prosecutors and the Judge over facts,in a sharply worded
    court filing.
    The hearing will continue tomorrow.
    Bill Cosby was photographed in a dark blue suit w/light blue shirt and tie.
    He had a huge grin on his face.His lawyers brought medical evidence claiming
    his blindness.
     
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    You need to understand one thing - in cases of being raped, then yrs go by, there is no more 'hard evidence' than there is in the cases of young boys being raped by pedophile priests, then yrs later they come out and tell what happened to them.......same thing w/the Penn State & Jerry Sandusky case. Those boys had no one to go to for help at that time. Where's Sandusky now? In prison where he belongs.....

    This type of crime w/no evidence yrs later is not hard to understand.

    So far 61 women have come forward and it doesn't MATTER if Cosby is a 'Hollywood icon' or not. That does not excuse what he was in his REAL life when the camera wasn't on him, which is a depraved pervert........

    The reality here is that his 'Hollywood icon' status is now behind him and he will be remembered now for how he had the world fooled into believing he was the 'best of the best' when in truth, he was one of the very WORST......
     
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    You just can't get past talking and thinking like a novice at True Crime.
    In cases of The worst form of humanity { serial killers } like a Ted Bundy
    or John Wayne Gacy ... there is usually a conviction on just one or a couple
    murders.Because You need verifiable,credible proof in a court of law.
    It's not the number of charges but the indefatigable pressure the hard evidence
    possesses.He Said ... She said cases are kinda touch and go.
    Frankly I don't think yer up for the challenge of this high profile case.
    Again ... OJ got off. Trayvon Martin was made to look like an honor student.
    Rodney King was turned into a martyr and sued the city and won almost
    $ 4 million.
     
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    Bill Cosby was dealt another blow today as his lawyers try again to
    get the criminal assault charges against him thrown out of court.
    Cosby and crew are arguing " deprivation of due process rights "
    on account he was " promised by a District Attorney years ago he would
    not be Prosecuted ". I guess the ' Cos felt that meant he would never ever
    be prosecuted.
    Today's judgy wudgy also denied ' Cosby lawyers a motion to have a
    hearing to determine the " competency " of Other Cosby accusers { 13 thus far }
    who have come forward,legally.
    The very damaging Deposition that Cosby gave in 2005, " in which he
    acknowledged obtaining drugs to give to women he sought for sex is till
    up in the air."
    There's a whole lot to that deposition.
    How did Cosby OBTAIN those drugs?
    If not legally then he has to explain exactly and precisely how and where.
    If he did Obtain them legally,under what pretext. A Sore back.?
    Or he needed to alter his mood via a Mood Enhancer like a Quaalude in order
    to keep from falling into Depression.
    The findings on that speculation will be addressed in the next court date
    held for December 13 and 14.
    Those should be a real HooT.
     
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    "Verifiable credible proof".....well, of course. And then there's cases where the accused is convicted based on circumstantial evidence. Ever hear of Scott Peterson? He's a classic example of nothing but circumstantial evidence and he got nailed.

    Why is it that pedophile priests have been convicted after many yrs? Where was the 'verifiable credible proof' after all those yrs? Where's the 'verifiable credible proof' in any rape case after time went by? Where was the 'verifiable credible proof' in the Penn State/Sandusky case? So, you see there CAN be justice in rape cases.

    There is truth in numbers.
     
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    Truly sad and lunatic comment " There is Truth in Numbers ".
    Try for the sake of sanity to watch - The Ox-Bow Incident - { 1943 }
    Or even - Mississippi Burning - { 1988 }.
    Or the truth of the OJ verdict.
    The truth behind Hillary's Popular vote { how many were Illegals and Felons }.
    Maybe with a Good Priest the Truth behind the number of Hail Mary's and
    Our Father's given out as penance.
     
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    Oh, good gawd....here we go again. Back to Hollywood.

    What the hell does OJ, where there was plenty of evidence and Hillary have to do w/this? Don't waste your time thinking you can answer this w/logic.

    There is truth and even power in numbers when more and more people start coming forward to tell what had happened to them in a rape case that happened yrs b/f. Many of these people were children when it happened and had no one to go to for help.....as we all know.

    So far, 61 women have come forward to expose Cosby. Beverly Johnson's story spoke volumes about Cosby's sickness. When she immediately felt herself going loopy after taking a sip of his drink, she knew he had drugged her and confronted him, he got mad and shoved her in a cab fast...... why would she come forward w/a story that didn't match up w/all those other 60 women? She had absolutely no reason to lie about a guy whom she believed was her friend and, IIRC, yrs later told her daughter about him.....wake up and smell the coffee!
     
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    You a drag Daddio.I'm finished with you at this Thread.
    You're not up to doing anything but prattle like some old lady
    who wants to go to the Old Folks home wearing her 40 year old Hotpants.
    And Blond wig with knee high Nancy Sinatra boots { These Boots are Made for Walkin' }
     
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    LOL! You're in your 90's or close to it and you go on about someone else's age? Funny!

    If you can't understand the diff b/t a murder case and a serial rapist who preys on women for decades......yeah, then we need to shut down the 'conversation'...

    You have a good evening!
     
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    A Montgomery County Judge ruled today { Monday December 5 } That Prosecutors
    WILL BE ALLOWED to use Bill Cosby's Decade old { from 2005-06 } Testimony
    regarding his sexual past and use of drugs in his encounters with women.
    The ruling by Judge Steven O'Neil concluded that there was no such promise
    or agreement not to prosecute back 10 years ago by Prosecutors.Only
    an exercise in prosecutorial discretion existed.
    This is a result of the Deposition Cosby gave in 2005,portions of which were
    unsealed for the fist time last year.Leading to this new inquiry and now Trial.
    In that deposition there was acknowledgement that Cosby Had Given young
    women drugs or alcohol in past sexual encounters.
    Many of the women coming forth recently beg to differ.Their accounts are
    of Cosby drugging and then abusing them.
     
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    Well, so much for the legendary "America's dad"....he's going down in flames and will be only known as a depraved pervert and he deserves it. Someone in the position of doing this needs to demand he return his medal of freedom. He has no right to it......

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    Well, so much for the legendary "America's dad"....he's going down in flames and will be only known as a depraved pervert and he deserves it. Someone in the position of doing this needs to demand he return his medal of freedom. He has no right to it......
     
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    What do you think would be the charge if found guilty.?
     
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    Hopefully, drugging and raping women, then off to the college campus pen for the rest of his unnatural, depraved life where he'll live in comfort......yeah, yeah! I know he won't be charged for all 61, so you don't have to write a long, drawn-out post, reciting every movie produced involving similar crimes and every actor/actress in it.

    Uh ho! A commercial just came on my tv.....it's ......MY Pillow man! Ya mean, he's still around? Must be making big bucks by now w/his pillow.
     
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    Now who's the one actin' silly.
    What should Cosby be charged with.?
     
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    You're right - I shouldn't have mentioned My Pillow to you. Commercial was there and so was the temptation. Sorry about that.

    I already told you. Cosby should be charged for drugging and raping women, but of course, he'll get a lighter charge b/c he's Cosby....well, maybe. Depends upon the judge.......either way, he's going down and the best thing of all is that now the whole world knows exactly what he is and his victims will have that satisfaction.

    You should have watched the 20/20 show about this. Even one of the male actors on the Cosby show said that whenever a young wannabe female actress showed up on the set b/c Cosby asked her to and she & Cosby were alone in his dressing room, he said everyone on the set felt an uncomfortable sense of 'something is wrong here'.....to paraphrase his words. But b/c he was Cosby, "America's dad" and Mr. Wonderful, the cast members ignored the strong scent of something ugly going on behind closed doors......and these words came from a man who was right there.

    Anyway, we shall find out what Karma has in store for him.

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    You're right - I shouldn't have mentioned My Pillow to you. Commercial was there and so was the temptation. Sorry about that.

    I already told you. Cosby should be charged for drugging and raping women, but of course, he'll get a lighter charge b/c he's Cosby....well, maybe. Depends upon the judge.......either way, he's going down and the best thing of all is that now the whole world knows exactly what he is and his victims will have that satisfaction.

    You should have watched the 20/20 show about this. Even one of the male actors on the Cosby show said that whenever a young wannabe female actress showed up on the set b/c Cosby asked her to and she & Cosby were alone in his dressing room, he said everyone on the set felt an uncomfortable sense of 'something is wrong here'.....to paraphrase his words. But b/c he was Cosby, "America's dad" and Mr. Wonderful, the cast members ignored the strong scent of something ugly going on behind closed doors......and these words came from a man who was right there.

    Anyway, we shall find out what Karma has in store for him.
     
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    A charge such as Sexual Assualt or Molestation.Cosby already beat
    the charge of *Molestation because the statute of limitations for filing a Molestation
    charge {which is a misdemeanor} is One Year. The statute of limitation for filing a felony
    sex crime is 3 years.

    * which was declined by Los Angeles prosecutors in December of 2014
    from a woman who claimed Cosby molested her around 1974.
    Keep in mind the 2005 lawsuit by a Pennsylvania woman was settled out
    of court.
    As of 2014 Cosby has never been charged in connection with any of the numerous
    allegations { 15 women had come forward by then }.
    Back in December of 2014 Prosecutors evaluated the charge Cosby would
    have faced in 1974.Prosecutors took into account legislative changes that extend
    the statute of limitations for certain crimes but found no way that Cosby could
    be legally prosecuted.
     
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    Yup! Money sure talks, doesn't it?

    The one big snafu....INJUSTICE in the legal system is the statute of limitations inflicted on the victims of sex crimes. Maybe someday that stinkin' unfair law will be abolished and make it fair for ALL victims of sex crimes to come forward and file charges against their rapist.

    Anyway, Cosby is done for, regardless of how it turns out in court. This will follow him around like a bad stink for the rest of his unnatural, depraved life. He'll never again will be even a guest on someone's show.....well, unless it's Whoomy Goldberg's show. Whatta puke!

    Well, I got more Xmas stuff to do.........bye!

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    Yup! Money sure talks, doesn't it?

    The one big snafu....INJUSTICE in the legal system is the statute of limitations inflicted on the victims of sex crimes. Maybe someday that stinkin' unfair law will be abolished and make it fair for ALL victims of sex crimes to come forward and file charges against their rapist.

    Anyway, Cosby is done for, regardless of how it turns out in court. This will follow him around like a bad stink for the rest of his unnatural, depraved life. He'll never again will be even a guest on someone's show.....well, unless it's Whoomy Goldberg's show. Whatta puke!

    Well, I got more Xmas stuff to do.........bye!
     

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