This is the gun control legislation Mitch McConnell won't allow senators to vote on

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Every bloody day but I do not use or need a gun
     
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    And if you wait until you need to use a gun it will be too late

    I find Americans have developed a sense of helplessness.

    Fighting for freedom is done daily with the one implement mightier than any sword or gun
     
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    Especially if you don't have one.
     
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    This is america , not australia ." SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED". Read it , understand it. Mind your own business.
     
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    History has proven that your methods might give you a warm, fuzzy feeling....but in the end, you are defenseless against those that wish to silence your voice and when they have no reservations against using violence themselves.
     
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    A number which is totally false as such would violate FEC campaign contribution rules.
     
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    Robert E Allen Banned

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    How you define a mass shooting determines the data you use. Most "mass shooting " studies explicitly eliminate gang related crime.
    Not including gang related crime skews the data.
     
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    Yea a total of $3K which is nothing to speak of.
     
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    Two horrific crimes.

    What is the root cause of all of these crimes? I see it as the human (or inhuman, if you will) heart. If new legislation banning weapons is the answer (while the specific investigations are still ongoing, I add) how do you know what law is needed (while the investigations are ongoing, I add)? The expected anti-constitutional gun law/ban backlash from the pro-facist government wing is all for naught, it won't stop murder.

    I suggest that we dump all the gun law restrictions that have failed to ban this behavior. Make one new constitutionally acceptable law that targets and affects criminal behavior only, leaving all other citizens unaffected, that insures that murder by people using a firearm or knife or baseball bat or motor vehicle etc. never happens again. What you say? That's ludicrous!? I agree. Free Will, Freedom to choose, Liberty need to be outlawed and a Marxist/socialist/communist/facist mindset are needed to bring about the suppression of the proletariat masses to provide the illusion that we are safe from the evil that dwells in some human hearts.

    Wait for the investigations to be completed before the anti-Bill of Rights crowd solves the world's problems.

    Criminals and their unlawful behaviors should not dictate or be used to restrict the responsible exercise of our Bill of Rights for any American Citizen responsibly exercising their constitutionally protected rights.

    Having said all of that I don't understand why there wasn't some armed civilians present in El Paso, Texas who could have returned fire. I expected there would be. I get that Ohio wouldn't have had some armed civilians present during the shooting there. That's Ohio.
     
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    Good for you.
     
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    Truth.jpg
     
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    Mass political rhetoric, 24/7.
    Decades of easy money and debt coming to an end.
    Economic anxiety.
    Widespread use of neurotransmitter blockers and analogs.
    Decades of poor parenting.
    The decline of a society of excess
     
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    Until the government changes to a type where your government silences you. Then you either pick up your rifle and resist, or you become slave to a tyrannical government. Go ahead and try and tell me that history doesn’t say this happens very frequently.
     
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    If they tried to take them, I would get together with all my many friends that also would not give up their assault rifles, which would number a couple hundred, and let the government know that they could try and take them, but there will be a bloodbath. They’ll back down, or spark a much much larger conflict.
     
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    When it comes to confiscation the math doesn't add up, there are about 110K law enforcement personal in the U.S. versus 100M gun owners.

    Meanwhile in Chicago which as some of the strictest gun laws in the nation 294 people have been killed by guns this year, but you don't see the GCA's trying to understand the blatant failure of the very same laws they are calling for elsewhere.

    The GCA's have no solutions, they just hate guns and promote their cause with selective deaths, which is a very sick thing to do, fact is most of them also support criminals directly and indirectly .
     
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    Absolutely, spot on. The whole gun control argument is absurd. It’s not happening. People need to get over it, and actually find the root cause of mental illness. Guns don’t cause mental illness, as much as liberals seem to think otherwise.
     
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    Well some of the looters here were the local PD, and they did not even seem to care they were being filmed by the media. You often compare your country to ours, and I think you seem to fail to understand just how different the two are. During Katrina New Orleans had more in common with Venezuela than Australia I would think.
     
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    How many were off their meds? What was their upbringing? How many claimed allegiance to God for their act? Any legitimate warning signal? How did they express themselves socially? How many used the Internet, a forum? All rhetorical questions. Best to wait for the complete investigation to conclude unless one knows more than the investigators.
     
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    And your equivalent to Katrina is what exactly???? When I tell you that the Gulf Coast looked like a nuclear Bomb struck, this is not hyperbole. Over 800 homes were destroyed. Water of at least 15 feet covered 80 percent of New Orleans, over 1800 people killed, damage and recovery costs exceeding 200 Billion. You may be obsessed with America but you know nothing about America.
     
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    Well regulated militia. It isn't 1790 anymore.
     
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    The argument that the 2nd Amendment pertains to an organized militia has already been debunked by SCOTUS many times.
     
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    but....but....but....they've got snakes.
     
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    That's well said and to the point. I have been trying to refine the reasoning of these killings all weekend, but the only thing most people want to blame is an ideology or firearms. If Vegas taught us anything it was these people don't need a reason to commit mass murder. The real sickness was there before the ideology IMO.
     
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    By 'spot check', do you mean stopping people randomly at the state border looking for out of state guns?
     
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