This is what has happened to the GOP

These countries Venezuela, Libya, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Somalia, North Korea are all countries where we really cannot verify who people are that come here. TO me the list is missing Afghanistan, South Sudan, DRC, and the Central African Republic. The country does not benefit from allowing people from those countries to enter and in fact it can be dangerous. Immigration should benefit the immigrant AND the host country.

 

Yeh right. I foresee a day when straight white males will be able to go about unmolested and Aryans will have successful businesses. Stop casting yourself as a victim just because you can no longer persecute people, again a common propaganda tactic.

 

I didn't say we are victims, just that we get the blame.

 

If this all you have, you should be terrified at your party's prospects for the 2018 election.

 

Let's be clear, just what is your complaint as to how straight, white males are being treated?

 

But they WEREN'T socialist, not in any way. They didn't want the people to own the means of production, not at all. The Nazi's version of economic "management" was to simply give everything to the really big businesses and let them run roughshod over everybody, even help them do so (gee, this sounds familiar somehow) Of course the big businesses were successful, at the expense of everyone else, and everyone who complained was a slave laborer very soon. One of the Nazi's first decrees was to dissolve any business capitalized at less than the German equivalent of $25,000, which is about $400,000 today . The Nazi economy did indeed have very little corruption, corruption was completely legal, it was just the way things were done.

Some of the Nazis. a lot of the Brownshirts and their leader, Ernst Rohm, were sold on the idea of socialism. They were famously the first large group that Hitler killed, (well, he killed their leadership. The rank and file were mainly just mindless thugs and there was never really any shortage of occupation for them in Nazi Germany)

 

In many, if not most, countries around the world which are not ethnically homogeneous, 'ethnic politics' with one or another degree of openness, is the norm.

A country with more than one ethnic group (or 'tribe' as I think they should be called, because the situation is identical when the groups share the same DNA but don't share some other marker for primary identity, like religion) is always in tension. From time to time such countries have tribal civil wars, or pogroms.

Sadly, this is just the norm. In the US, non-whites -- and even non-English whites -- were subject to all kinds of discrimination, including lethal violence for nearly two hundred years. Only after WWII, when we began to have to compete with the Soviet Union in the Third World, were serious inroads made into this problem.

For a while, it looked like the US might actually be moving towards being a non-tribal society, with tribal identities fading away or at least becoming insignificant. It's always been the American ideal.

Now 'identity politics' is growing, and it's inevitable that it will take hold among whites. For the Left, identity politics is a substitute for the class politics which never really took hold in the US. The legitimate Right is going to have bend over backwards to avoid imitating the Left in this, although the temptation will be great.

 

So... the means of production were privately held by the people?

 

Hitler considered socialism the primary threat to Germany. Something he said over and over again. He put a wide range of communist and socialist in prison, he did not do this with conservative German groups. Many European conservatives joined the Waffen SS specifically to fight the communist and all of Hitler's support in Europe came from the right not the left.

Its amazing that we have forgotten that.

 

It's a common meme on the Right to lump the Nazi's in with Socialists and Communists, and to claim that all of them were Leftwing phenomena.

It's a misconception. It's fair enough to group the Nazis with the Communists, since both aimed and aim now at single-party all-powerful states, in which their political opponents are sent to the gulag or firing squad. In that sense, they are similar. But that's along a different axis than the traditional (and meaningful) Left-Right axis. It's orthogonal to the Left-Right spectrum.

Where the confusion comes, is this: the very reason we had to invent a new political word -- 'fascism' to use the most generic term -- in the 1920s, was that fascism, although a reaction against the Left and ultimately aiming to defend the basics of the existing social order, was NOT a traditional Right-wing movement.

Traditionally, the Right called for loyalty to the existing institutions of society, which were under threat from the Left: the old Right (in Europe) relied on traditional loyalty to Throne and Altar, and also to the military. (Franco in Spain was an example of a traditional Rightist movement like this, congruent to fascism but not really using the methods of Italian or German fascists.)

What the Italian fascists did, and still more the German fascists, was to throw off this traditionalist baggage. They were radicals, seeking a radical change in the social and economic system. They -- especially the Germans -- stole the clothes of the Socialists -- they demagogically appropriated whole chunks of the Socialist program. They also stole the organizational methods of the Communists, forming a disciplined combat party which, while it might contest elections, was basically an instrument for the seizure of power. This was something new, although it had been faintly presaged by Louis Napoleon in 1850.

When the fascists or Nazis came to power, your trade union was smashed. But if you owned a business, it was secure. You might have to hire the local gauleiter's nephew, organize compulsory collections among your employees for the Patriotic Fund, etc... but you kept your business. You might have been subject to more state regulation than you liked, but that always happens in wartime, and fascism puts society on a permanent war footing. It's called crony capitalism and it's the norm in much of the world.

It's useful sometimes, and fun, to shock Leftists by quoting points 10-18 of the political platform of the National Socialist German Workers Party. But it confuses things to say that the Nazis were Leftists. No one really believes this, and it just makes us (the Right) look foolish. It's not as dishonest as the all-conservatives-are-Nazis meme of the Left, because usually the people saying it believe it, but it gets in the way of clear thinking. And God knows we need that right now.

 

What people miss is that in Europe many conservatives believed in a strong central government. American conservatives, who overwhelmingly oppose this, don't understand that European and American conservatism is very different.

 

Here's more:

 

Remind me again what percentage of registered Republicans deny the holocaust?

Yeah. Thought so.

 

And then decided to do a switcheroo.

https://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/19/us/former-leader-of-klan-narrowly-wins-contest-in-louisiana.html

You were saying?

 

President Trump disavowed David Duke publicly and even left a 3rd party he was involving in specifically stating it was because he would not be associated with David Duke many years before he ran for public office - something you will NEVER hear on the MSM and something neither Bill or Hilary Clinton did before running for office the first time.

 

These are worthless threads.

Democrats in Congress have called for:

Nazi style mob brown shirt attacks and harassment of political opponents.
Called for our elected government to be overthrown by a military coup to become a military dictatorship.
Have called for the American government to become 100% socialist exactly like Cuba.

Democrats at the State level have:
Called for Trump to be assassinated
Called for a civil war to remove Trump

None of the 3 Republicans in the OP called for death, murder, mob attacks, the overthrow of the government and eliminate of democracy.

 

please document each of your claims

 

and today's American Nazis support Republican pols

 

And they are not the sexy Nazis..

 

The Nazis were socialists, right? The National Socialist Workers Party?

 

Socialists financed by Republican Wall Street: https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_Hitler.pdf

 

my goodness, Nazis behind every blade of grass. leftists are running out of safe places to live!

 

your friends said this:






remember?

 

As much as the People Democratic Republics of North Korea/ China etc, are in fact Democracies and Republics. Playing the name game is both disingenuous and bloody stupid IMO but whatever.

 

His daughter's conversion of convenience is a sham that helped the merger of the trump and kushner crime families.

The Jewish Week, a New York newspaper, quoted an anonymous source with ties to Trump's presidential transition team as saying high-ranking aides had expressed concern to Israel regarding the legitimacy of Ivanka Trump's conversion.