This Year's Tax Cut Cost Some Gold Star Families Dearly

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  1. Boilermaker55

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    Want to trade places with the ones who you claim don't pay?
    Dare too!

     
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    What does that have to do with what I asked?

    Why is getting a big refund a good thing?
     
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    Do you know what a loss carryover is?
     
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    It is a tax law provided for multi-national and large corporations to hide their profit margin.
    Enough said.


     
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    It has all to do with the topic at hand.


     
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    It's tax law available to any business small or large, do you know what it is and why it is in our tax laws?
     
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    Nothing at all but again

    Why is getting a big tax refund a good thing?
     
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    We all expect government services so why shouldn't we all pay for them?
     
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    The rich will just move somewhere else.
     
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    It was much more important to give corporations a break than to protect ordinary Americans
     
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    You are the one pushing out obscene lies about large corporations and tax laws.
    1. General Electric
    From 2008 to 2013, while GE made over $33.9 billion in United States profits, it received a total tax refund of more than $2.9 billion from the Internal Revenue Service.

    G.E.’s effective U.S. corporate income tax rate over this six year period was -9 percent.

    In 2012, GE stashed $108 billion in offshore tax havens to avoid paying income taxes. If this practice were outlawed, GE would have paid $37.8 billion in federal income taxes that year.

    During the financial crisis, the Federal Reserve provided GE with $16 billion in financial assistance, at a time when its CEO Jeffrey Immelt was a director of the New York Federal Reserve.

    GE has been a leader in outsourcing decent paying jobs to China, Mexico and other low-wage countries.

    Mr. Immelt has a retirement account at General Electric worth an estimated $59 million and made $19 million in total compensation last year.

    He is a member of the Business Roundtable, a group that wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Social Security to 70, cut Social Security and veterans’ benefits, increase taxes on working families, and cut corporate taxes even further.

    On December 6, 2002, Jeffrey Immelt said at an investors’ meeting, “When I am talking to GE managers, I talk China, China, China, China, China. You need to be there. You need to change the way people talk about it and how they get there. I am a nut on China. Outsourcing from China is going to grow to $5 billion. We are building a tech center in China. Every discussion today has to center on China. The cost basis is extremely attractive. You can take an 18 cubic foot refrigerator, make it in China, land it in the United States, and land it for less than we can make an 18 cubic foot refrigerator today, ourselves.”

    2. Boeing
    From 2008 to 2013, while Boeing made over $26.4 billion in U.S. profits, it received a total tax refund of $401 million from the IRS. Boeing’s effective U.S. corporate income tax rate over this six-year period was -2 percent.

    Boeing is one of the top recipients of corporate welfare in the United States and has outsourced tens of thousands of decent paying jobs to China and other low-wage countries.

    Boeing even has its own taxpayer-funded bank known as the Export-Import Bank of the United States. Boeing has received so much corporate welfare from this bank that it has been dubbed “the Bank of Boeing.”

    Boeing CEO W. James McNerney, Jr. made $23.3 million in total compensation last year. Mr. McNerney, as a member of the Business Roundtable, wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Social Security to 70 and make significant cuts to Social Security.

    3. Verizon
    From 2008 to 2013, while Verizon made over $42.4 billion in U.S. profits, it received a total tax refund of $732 million from the IRS.

    Verizon’s effective U.S. corporate income tax rate over this six-year period was -2 percent.

    In 2012, Verizon stashed $1.8 billion in offshore tax havens to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. Verizon would owe an estimated $630 million in federal income taxes if its use of offshore tax avoidance was eliminated.

    In 2013, Lowell McAdam, the CEO of Verizon made $15.8 million in total compensation. He wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Social Security to 70, and make significant cuts to Social Security as a member of the Business Roundtable.

    4. Bank of America
    Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS in 2010, even though it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of more than $1.3 trillion.

    In 2012, Bank of America operated more than 300 subsidiaries incorporated in offshore tax havens like the Cayman Islands, which has no corporate taxes.

    In 2012, Bank of America stashed $17.2 billion in offshore tax havens to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. Bank of America would owe an estimated $4.3 billion in federal income taxes if its use of offshore tax avoidance strategies were eliminated.

    Last year, Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan made $13.1 million in total compensation, but he wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Social Security to 70, and make significant cuts to Social Security as a member of the Business Roundtable.

    5. Citigroup
    Citigroup made more than $4 billion in profits in 2010, but paid no federal income taxes. Citigroup received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury during the financial crisis.

    Citigroup has established 427 subsidiaries incorporated in offshore tax havens.

    In 2012, it stashed $42.6 billion in offshore tax havens to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. Citigroup would owe an estimated $11.5 billion in federal income taxes if its use of offshore tax avoidance strategies were eliminated.

    Michael Corbat, the CEO of Citigroup, made more than $17.6 million in total compensation last year.

    6. Pfizer
    Pfizer, one of the largest prescription drug companies in America, not only paid no federal income taxes from 2010 to 2012, it received $2.2 billion in tax refunds from the IRS at the same time it made $43 billion in profits worldwide.

    In 2012, Pfizer stashed $73 billion in profits offshore and has used aggressive offshore tax strategies to avoid paying U.S. income taxes.

    Ian Read, the CEO of Pfizer, made $17.7 million in total compensation last year.

    Hank McKinnell, Jr., who was Pfizer’s CEO from 2001 to 2006, received a golden parachute from Pfizer worth an estimated $188 million.

    7. FedEx
    In 2011, Federal Express received a $135 million tax refund from the IRS even though it made more than $2.7 billion in U.S. profits that year.

    FedEx receives more than $1 billion a year from the U.S. Postal Service to provide air service for all express mail and priority mail shipments.

    Frederick Smith, the CEO of FedEx, made more than $12.6 million in total compensation last year.

    8. Honeywell
    From 2009 to 2010, not only did Honeywell pay no federal income taxes, it received a $510 million tax refund from the IRS even though it made a combined profit in the U.S. of almost $3 billion.

    In 2012, Honeywell stashed $11.6 billion in offshore tax havens to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. Honeywell would owe an estimated $4.06 billion in federal income taxes if its use of offshore tax avoidance were eliminated.

    David Cote, the CEO of Honeywell, made more than $25.4 million in total compensation last year.

    Mr. Cote wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Social Security to 70 and make significant cuts to Social Security as a member of the Business Roundtable.

    9. Merck
    In 2009, not only did Merck pay no federal income taxes, it received a $55 million tax refund from the IRS, even though it earned more than $5.7 billion in U.S. profits.

    In 2012, Merck stashed $53.4 billion in offshore tax haven countries to avoid paying income taxes. If this practice was outlawed, it would have paid $18.69 billion in federal income taxes.

    Fred Hassan, the CEO of Merck from 2003 to 2009, received a golden parachute worth an estimated $189 million.

    Merck’s current CEO, Kenneth Frazier, has a retirement account worth an estimated $14.4 million. He wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Social Security to 70 and make significant cuts to Social Security as a member of the Business Roundtable.

    10. Corning
    From 2008 to 2012, not only did Corning pay no federal income taxes, it received a $10 million tax refund from the IRS, even though it earned more than $3.4 billion in U.S. profits during those years.

    Corning has stashed $11.9 billion in offshore tax havens to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. Corning would owe an estimated $4.165 billion in federal income taxes if its use of offshore tax avoidance were eliminated.

    Wendell Weeks, the CEO of Corning, has a retirement account worth an estimated $22.8 million. Mr. Weeks wants to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Social Security to 70 and make significant cuts to Social Security as a member of the Business Roundtable.

     
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    They have not before, they will not now, but they will continue to try to corrupt government to favor them.
     
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    The large rich corporations have always written tax laws on their behalf.


     
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    Just giving you some facts. Choose to use them or deny them.


     
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    I don't think either had anything to do with the other, prove me wrong.
     
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    You haven't given me any facts yet.

    Nothing you have said is true.
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    Not at all.
    Sorry to show you facts you cannot dispute.
    Drink more kool aid

     
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    I've included multiple references that explain why GE did not get a "tax refund".

    If you choose to keep parroting your narrative in spite of the actual facts from multiple sources, feel free to remain ignorant.
     
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    Sure.

    I'll just leave this here for anyone dumb enough to believe what you say.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2012/04/warren-ge-pays-no-taxes/

    If you need any help figuring out how to open a door, PM me.
     
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    My comment and facts stand for themselves.
    To bad you have a comprehension problem.
    The "mods' didnt like me referring to your other attributes.
    They are quite partisan.



     
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    Oh I know your comment stands for itself. That's what makes me laugh.
     
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    IT does but you don't care to be shown the truth.
    It is about taxes and tax cuts.

     

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