Time to cut ties with Manchin

It isn't often I see someone of your political persuasion admitting to the Senate's disproportionate representation of small state conservatives as antithetical to democracy. But one must remember the agreement to equal Senate representation for all states without regard to population was made before national parties came in to existence and would never be agreed upon today.
The unfair advantage Repubs enjoy is why they fight tooth and nail to keep DC and PR from being admitted as states.

 

I don't know if there are 3 groups, 2 for certain, perhaps 3. I don't know. There's the far left and the moderate like Biden.
R's are also split into at least 2 groups, if not more. The far right, now call trumpers, the tea party, largely joined the trump group, and those who don't want to be all inclusive into white nationalism and insurrection inciting. I can't even call them moderates as McConnell is in the last group. And he never wants to work in the middle.

My hope, but reality says it won't happen, is both parties become so fractured there evolves a viable 3rd party.
But the 2 parties have such a lock on legislation and money, that's near impossible.

 

Country 1st is a subjective issue.
I disagree with the fake filibuster. Would like to see the original filibuster installed. Rather than NO filibuster.
And following party lines is not Country 1st. That's party 1st. And that's the big problem in DC.

 

Dems don't have the votes, and Manchin sided with principle.

 

I believe you make too many assumptions about my "political persuasion." There is a case for PR statehood. DC should simply be retroceded to Maryland.

 

Hahahaha...what principle would that be? John Calhoun's tyranny of the minorities?

 

Manchin sided with himself. Principle was made a quaint relic by Repubs long ago. It's time Dems wake up to that reality.

 

It's to your credit you acknowledge PR's legit case for statehood and the anti-democratic advantage conservatives have in the Senate all on the same thread. Bravo.

 

Country before party.

 

Nope. There are two highly principled Senators: Romney and Manchin.

 

Dems have had the anti-democratic edge before. What goes around comes around. And again, the Senate was intended to be undemocratic.

 

He sided with his constituency...the rural poor. Fifty-one percentage of the WV population is rural and it has the lowest median income in the country. The southern white, rural poor have only their "pride in color" left and will use every trick in the book to enhance their minority political power. Mitch "Mr. Filibuster" McConnell, from Kentucky, isn't far behind, with a 42% rural population in the Blue Grass State. They believe as long as the Democrats maintain their coalition, that their political survival depends upon "white minority political rule," found increasingly in regions of the rural poor.

 

We disagree...I'd say the opposite. See comment above to "Atwater."

 

I'm sure we agree that Congress serves themselves better than either half of the country. I wonder why 3rd parties don't control more Congressional districts. Have the Libertarians ever had a single seat in Congress?

Rather than a third party, I'd like to see greater involvement in national politics by the State Legislatures. They lost a lot when they lost the Senate. One step that I think would at least give then a voice in the Senate, would be for the State legislature to be able to recall their Senator on a majority vote. It would take a constitutional amendment, but, I think the State Legislatures should consider it.

 

That condescending attitude toward rural Americans will be the Dems' undoing.

 

What was condescending about it? Just an observation. There is only roughly 20% of the population left in rural America.

 

". . . The southern white, rural poor have only their "pride in color" left and will use every trick in the book to enhance their minority political power. Mitch "Mr. Filibuster" McConnell, from Kentucky, isn't far behind, with a 42% rural population in the Blue Grass State. They believe as long as the Democrats maintain their coalition, that their political survival depends upon "white minority political rule," found increasingly in regions of the rural poor."

Presumptuous, condescending and arrogant.

 

To what do you contribute their failure?

 

What failure?

 

Failure to have a decent median income.

 

You don't get to decide what someone else thinks is decent income.

 

How about States receiving the most in government assistance (i.e. welfare)?

 

So what? Most government assistance is not welfare.

 

Names a statistic that you think is indicative of economic failure.

 

Don't know much about WV do you?

Pride in color my ass. WV became a State due to opposition to slavery.

People fleeing liberal States and Cities are swarming in droves to WV. The WV County I live in had a median household income of 77K 4 years ago.

WV is 94% White so explain how white minority rule applies to WV.