To avoid the civil war, let's divide France

Bwa ha ha ha ha, our intrepid anti muslim warrior.

 

Sure, until the Muslims decide they need lebensraum.

 

That reply has nothing to do with:
Well Muslims march around with not in my name all the time.
You can't say the Jews do the same thing.

Those Jews were sentences according to their Jewish laws. Mohammed was just their victim.

Indeed. Those Jews got sentenced fair and square according to their own laws.

Jews killed the son of God, and you don't care... lol

I just the actions of Jews and Muslims rather fair. We got:
Muslims march around with not in my name all the time.
You can't say the Jews do the same thing.

 

I'm taking it you're just lying that this happened, since you refuse to back up your claim.

If the Jews didn't like that sentence than they should have made other laws. It's their own fault. And here you go and blame the victim. No doubt you blame the victim because he's a Muslim.

 

Why were the Muslims allowed into France post WWII? I fail to see how France benefitted from this migration. What were they thinking?

Maybe it's hindsight, but that decision seems like national suicide.

 

They needed cheap people do to unskilled labor. And post WWII, they still had colonies with lots of people who did not have skills.... because France didn't build schools in their country for those people.

 

It must be nice to just sweep away everything you cannot deny, defend or explain by terming it all Islamophobia.
Sure saves much thinking and justification, doesn't it.

 

Well, it worked for a while. Not the best long range planning.

 

The French thought that they had the right to go around the world and make people part of their empire and now their great great grandkids are paying the price. The same thing is happening to other Western countries, including the U.S. The chickens are coming home to roost.

 

Don't sell me short. I also termed it bigoted and moronic.

 

You realize that I'm not christian ? Anyway, I won't make all jews responsible for the death of Jesus. And again you complain about collective responsibility... Only when it's applied to muslims.

Yeah, a few dozen in a country who count millions of muslims. Recently Charlie Hebdo published two new caricatures :




Islam religion of eternal peace.



Tariq Ramadan : I'm the sixth pillar of Islam.

They got thousands and thousands of death threats. So on a hand we have thirty muslims in France getting out "not in my name", in the other hand we have thousand of death threats and messages like "Charlie didn't got the lesson".

But I don't care of the jews. I know they're very important in your mind, but I don't care of Israel and Palestinia or the jews. I just notice that when Muhammed Merah shot a 4 YO children, you don't seems to condemn.

So Muhammed has his hands full of blood of the Banu Qurayzan and he is a victim. When Muhammed ordered to torture kinana for money, was he the poor defenceless victim of Kinana ?
You can't call a man who make slaughter an entire tribe a victim.

You will so prove your saying and quote the talmud. They were maybe sentenced according to their own laws, but it's still not "fair" and even less the way a good man would do.

Some years ago, a band of french muslims captured a young jew and tortured him. The man died of his wounds commited. The band was called "the gang of the barbarian". At first, I didn't thought to religion, then i red the story of Kinana and realized that the gang of barbarian were just following the example of their prophet.

And your prophet probably said "Kill any jew that fall into your power", because he was a poor, poor victim and absolutely not a genocidal maniac.

Every muslims on earth support a genocider, support genocide because they will never condemn the genocide commited by their prophet and ethnic cleansing (your prophet expulsed any jew and christian from arabic peninsula).

It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.

And you support that. You condemn genocide... When it's happening to muslims only... You condemn ethnic cleansing.... When it's happening to muslims mony.

And you want me to believe that you and your religion is pacifist and have anything to do with human kindness ?

 

I'm not your mom. I'm french. I meet french people. I know a lot of people who have italian, polish, spanish name, I know people whose grandfather or father fled Franco.
If you want an example of Italian migration in France you have Lazare Ponticelli : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazare_Ponticelli
Or by the way Marie Curie. They're just two individuals but they were nothing but exceptionnal as italian or polish migrants in France.

Our former prime minister is named Valls, he is born in Spain, the mayor of Paris is named Anne (a woman) Hidalgo, she is from spanish origin too and I know a lot of unknown people who are just my friends or friends of my family. I will not present my intimacy just because you're too lazy to search some informations by yourself.

 

Some smart progressives understand that the works isn't yet civilized enough to completely adopt their ideology, and they understand that a strong defense is required or else the next tribe over will just conquer you and your cosmopolitan society.

 

You gotta have both. Too few moderately conservative people in Europe. Thought got too close to the mean.

 

I'm asking for proof. And if mentioning 3 people who immigrated on a population of like 60 million is all you got that.... than ha!

Also... your 3 people were all well treated in France. While the point also is that French Muslim citizens are not. You claim to be French, than you know the neighborhoods where those people live is maintained on a totally other level than any other random place in France.

 

Yes, it tells us that arabs/Muslims have been treated as second class citizens for 2 or 3 generations.

 

You say Lebensraum, I say refuge from homelands bombed into the stoneage and swarming with jihadists destroying what is left.

 

Of course. Because Muslims march around with not in my name all the time, and Jews do not do that.

Indeed. The Jews agreed to remain neutral in the conflict, but they changed their minds during a war and tried to kill Mohammed instead. And here you are being mad that high treason leads to capital punishment. lol

That's not mohammed. I mean... really. Do you want me to condemn everything some muslim did in the past 1400 years? To you... who just did not condemn that Jews killed the son of God. I think I'll be pointing at the fact that Muslims walk around with not in my name often enough, while Jews and you do not.

 

1) The only source we know about the treason is muslims. We speak about a guy who tried to dominated the world, another criminal alongside Napoleon, Gengis Khan or Hitler.
2) When you punish for treason, you punish the leaders. You don't kill a whole tribe. Face the reality, your beloved prophet is a genocider.
Even the french when they occupied Algeria and repress rebellions weren't half as harsh than you genocider prophet was.
I guess that if Muhammed called to the murder of all jews they deserved it for you ?

No, I'm not talking about "some" muslims. I'm speaking of the "holy" prophet of Islam, a torturer, a genocider and a pedophile.

"Muslims walk around". Three guys wielding a poster aren't all muslims.
I don't believe Jesus is the son of god. I condemn the violences Jesus got from roman and jews. Would you condemn Muhammed the genocider and torturer ? I doubt.

Poor little muslims. They got : free healthcare, free school, free highschool, free universities, help for poor people (RSA), help for children (allocations familiales), subsidies for rent (APL), subsidies to study (bourses étudiantes, bourse au mérite for good students), subsidies to change your job, highschools who got more money (Zone d'Education Prioritaire, ZEP). The french are really mean mean people, paying all of that for the muslims.
I live at five minutes of that kind of neightborhood, just next the subsidied tramway and the multiple centers financed by the french state who help you to find a job or on many other points.
French state and so french taxpayers spend billions to help muslims. What they've got ? Muhammed Merah, Koulibaly, Kouachi, Salah Abdeslam, Mehdi Menouch and so many other killers.
You pretend that muslims are ill treated in France ? They're no other population in the whole history of France who got more financial help to develop themselve.

 

@notme Just to see how far go your double standarts :
Muslims raised terrorist to murder people in France. What if french people acted the same way Muhammed acted ? What would you think of that ?

 

Agreed

France has not benefited at all from the mass muslim migration

 

What's wrong with being "Islamophobic"? Can you explain through some positive examples of why you're an Islamophile?

 

Liberals aren't "pesky" as much as they are stupid. Tell it like it is.

 

@MrTLegal I would add that you can't like Islam and being for human right. You can't condemn torturing people for their money and no condemning Muhammed and so Islam, you can't condemning genocide and not condemning both the Quran and the hadith.

The big problem of the french is the live in denial. Most french do believe that insanity that the islamic murderers have no real links with islam?

 

Right. It's gone increasingly downhill where no one is safe anymore and all national artifacts must now be protected. Bringing in seriously brainwashed immigrants, whose beliefs we know are not compatible with a democratic society based on individual human rights, cannot be expected to work, and perhaps never was. More George Soros fiddling, and he has the money to finance his culture crushing beliefs.