Train riders held up phones as woman was raped, police say

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...3e363a-306b-11ec-8036-7db255bff176_story.html

The degradation of the US population is evident. And this is a product of capitalism.
Those creatures who filmed everything on phones and did not intervene, no one even called the police, cannot be called people. These are not people, they are biomass.
Under capitalism, the priority of the personal over the public is promoted. This is done specifically so that the masses of people could not unite to overthrow the parasite oligarchs.
And I wonder, with a population that is afraid to intervene when a bastard openly rapes a woman, how is the US going to fight China or Russia?
Now it becomes clear why the United States has not won a single war on its own.

 

You should make sure this wasn’t debunked before making hilarious claims, and from what I can tell no real reason, against capitalism.

 

We already have another thread about this.
Woman raped on a train, bystanders did nothing

 

Most of those passengers on that train were inner city inculturated African Americans or were under the influence of drugs and intoxicated. It's part of their culture not to call police, or they didn't want to call police for fear (whether justified or not) of getting arrested.

If you are actually familiar with the area where this happened... it's not really so surprising as it may first seem.

Oh, by the way, there's definitely a reason why many Americans in a lot of cities prefer not to take public transportation if they can at all avoid it.
Something people in other countries do not understand so well.

 

I notice as soon as someone brings up the fact that something happened in a ghetto neighborhood, suddenly everyone becomes quiet and it's like it happened in a parallel universe, and everyone ignores it.

Must be something in human psychology, when to ignore things and just walk away.

Coincidentally, I notice the "Africa" section of this forum gets very little visitation and it's like no one ever goes there.

(Maybe it's just "normal" for outrageously bad stuff to happen there, so our minds just automatically detach from that reality?)

 

I can't control my curiosity. How could this possible have anything to do with an economic system?

 

Let me guess
The rapist was a white conservative?

 

Dude, how did you get it THIS wrong.

The animals who filmed this assault are the product of the Welfare State. If not directly, then via the generational messaging that personal and social responsibility are entirely optional.

 

He's a Russian who's lived all his life in Russia, trying to comment on events in America he reads in the news.

Of course he's not going to have a good idea exactly what's going on, and is going to be seeing it through a certain lens.
(First through the deceptive lens of the American news media, and then secondly, after that, through his own anti-American Russian nationalist lens. So of course there is going to be some distortion in what he is seeing)

 

The founder of physics of the twentieth century, Albert Einstein, who made a revolution in science, wrote an article - "Why socialism?" (First published in Monthly Review.)
In this article, Albert Einstein has presented an elementary and highly conclusive explanation of the economic development of humanity as a whole. Here he gives an analysis of what the current capitalist society is and why it is quite natural that a change in the economic formation and the transition to socialism should take place.
I will give you some excerpts from his reflections.
What features of capitalism does Einstein highlight?
Here is what he writes at the beginning of his article: “... most of the great states owe their appearance to conquest. The conquering peoples made themselves the legally and economically ruling class of the conquered country. These priests, in whose hands was control over education, made the class division of society permanent and created a system of values, which people began to guide in their social behavior, mostly unconsciously. "

1. Here Einstein emphasizes that great states have arrogated to themselves power over the world not as a result of economic development, but through conquest. And they began to rule the world, making the class division permanent and securing the right for the upper classes to the education system.

He states an irrefutable fact: "It would not be a great exaggeration to say that even now humanity is one planetary community in production and consumption."
Next, I will take very long quotes from the article, because they are very important for understanding what modern society is like in general.
“The real source of this evil, in my opinion, is the economic anarchy of capitalist society. We see before us a huge productive community, whose members are increasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor. And not by force, but mostly observing the established rules. In this regard, it is important to understand that the means of production, that is, all production capacities required for the production of both consumer and capital goods, can be and are for the most part the private property of individuals. "

2. From my point of view, this is an extremely important observation. Under socialism, people were engaged in the development of production to satisfy the consumption of the working people, and did not take away property from each other. And in capitalist society, this has always been the norm of its existence. And what is capitalist society doing? It is busy taking property from each other. This is the subject of his constant work. If in a socialist society the subject of people's work was the development of production, then under capitalism a huge share of activity falls on how to take away property from people, how to redistribute property, doing this not by robbery, but on a "legal" basis for the oligarchy. But in essence - the robbery of people by oligarchs is legalized.

Further, Albert Einstein writes - "The owner of the means of production has the opportunity to buy the labor power of the worker. Using the means of production, this worker produces new products, which become the property of the capitalist. The most important thing in this process is the relationship between what the worker produces and how much he is paid. if both are measured in their real value.Since the employment contract is "free", what the worker receives is determined not by the actual value of the output he produces, but by his minimum needs and the ratio between the capitalist's need for labor and the number of workers competing with each other. with a friend for jobs. "

3. It is important to understand that even in theory the worker's wages are not determined by the value of what he produces. This is shown very accurately by Karl Marx. And Einstein said it all in simple words. But very accurate.

“Private capital,” he writes further, “tends to be concentrated in the hands of a few. This is partly due to competition between capitalists, and partly because technological development and the deepening division of labor are favoring the formation of ever larger production units at the expense of smaller ones. processes, a capitalist oligarchy appears, whose monstrous power a democratically organized society cannot effectively limit "
"Unrestricted competition leads to monstrous waste of labor and to that mutilation of the social consciousness of the individual, which I have already mentioned. This mutilation of the individual, I consider the greatest evil of capitalism. Our entire education system suffers from this evil. Our students are instilled in the desire to compete; as a preparation for their careers, they are taught to worship success in acquisitions. "

 

So in the capitalist society the people sold the videos they took?

But if it would have been a socialist society they would have all took turns raping her instead?

Trying to connect this event to an economic system is about the most ludicrously asinine comparison I have ever seen.

 

Einstein was a brilliant physicist. He was not a brilliant economist. We call this appeal to authority and unfortunately you appealed to a man with authority in a different expertise than that of your subject. Sorry.

 

Where was the transport authority employee who made the 911 call for the 37 minutes before he made it?

And don't transport cops have guns?

 

Do you mean security guards or a real police officer?

What I think you don't understand is that public transportation security workers don't want to get involved in cases where the offender is not obviously not going to be compliant and is likely going to use violence. First of all, they are not paid enough to take on that personal risk or inconvenience.
It's highly doubtful that one of them who would be immediately on hand would be equipped with a gun, especially in a city like Philadelphia.

Second of all, even if it had been a real police officer, they would have been extremely reluctant to get involved, probably would have tried to vamoose away from the scene as quickly as possible without being noticed. A black man strewn out on drugs, only one officer on the scene. Heck just look what happened with Derek Chauvin in the Floyd death, there is no way they'd want to get involved. You can't control the suspect without hurting him, and there may likely be legal liability associated with that.

Maybe what you don't seem to realize is that a lot of people in these big cities are just looking out for themselves and don't want to play the hero. The local authorities often take on a different view towards people who try to be heroes. Someone who might be awarded a medal and praised in the papers in a rural area might be thrown in prison, automatically be fired from their job, threatened with decades of prison if they don't plead guilty, and have their rights permanently taken away, in a big city area. All the more reason an individual is going to be less inclined to act selfless.

One single person is not going to be able to exert much control in a situation like that (other than maybe shooting the rapist dead), and I doubt it would have been easy to find anyone else in that train willing to help.

Lastly, the rapist came from Africa and seems to have a big body build, like so many African men do. Not a person just anyone could push around.

 

I will say it's sad, the country is becoming more violent it seems

this is not limited to a party or an economic system

 

"Heck just look what happened with Derek Chauvin in the Floyd death"

if the cop handcuffed him, then killed him for no reason, that would be wrong

once you have someone under control and handcuffed, that is where the issue came in

 

Jeebus dingus man, with all due respect I have to ask "Is there ONE insulting racial stereotype you DON"T ascribe to?". Systemic racism bullshit, you don't need anything systemic when you have individuals like you seem to be.

To begin, this is something of a worldwide problem. In Japan train rapes on the massively overcrowded bullets are something of an ongoing phenomena victimising young schoolgirls. In many places trains are being segregated by sex.

My main question here is what was the assaulted woman doing all this time? Was she slapping and fighting. Was she at least screaming a little?. It doesn't sound like the guy got on the train naked and just grabbed the first woman he saw but that not being the case how were the other passengers to know this was not the latest thing in kinky foreplay?

And how did anyone know there wasn't a gun in play and the woman not a sort of impromptu hostage.

Also, it seems the police WERE called eventually, (and responded very quickly, to their credit) no doubt it should have happened much sooner, but it DID happen.

We need more policemen strategically placed, maybe more remotely monitored cameras as force multipliers

 

Naw. If anything it is the product of a collective mentality like socialism or communism, which breed mediocrity. Capitalism breeds individual excellence and responsibility. The dearth of valiance is yours.

 

The left has been on a years-long political crusade to vilify police, and deify criminals to the point where the citizens of leftist-hive cities refrain from calling the cops on criminals, and this is capitalism's fault?

Pretzel logic.

 

So did they find the white supremacists that committed this horrible act?

 

He was not "under control". That was the point. A man with a big muscular body size who is high on drugs and not really thinking/acting rationally is hard to control. If police use force, apparently they risk legal consequences.

Derek Chauvin obviously did not mean to kill, but he was prosecuted for it like he did.

As you well know, Chauvin didn't do what he did for absolutely "no reason". (An error in human judgement was made, yes, but those errors are real easy to make in those type of situations)

I think the comparison here is still valid (if not 100%, then partially).

 

he was under control, we all saw the video, I do hope future cops saw that video and what happened to the person that did it and remember not to be dicks to and harm people just cause you can

 

They did see it and that's why any lone cop would be extremely reluctant to want to intervene in a situation like this.

Better to just let the woman be raped.
I wouldn't want to risk 20 years in prison just to help some random stranger.

 

why cause they can't stop themself from killing a man in handcuffs?