TRUMP’S LAST-DITCH BID TO STEAL THE ELECTION: INSTALL LOYAL ELECTORS

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    With vote certification deadlines looming, the president has invited Michigan Republican legislators to the White House in what looks like an attempt to override the will of the people.

    On Friday, Donald Trump is scheduled to meet with Michigan Republican state legislators at the White House as he steps up a desperate bid to undermine the election that he lost decisively to President-elect Joe Biden. According to the New York Times, “Trump contacted the Republican majority leader in the Michigan State Senate to issue the invitation,” though it's unclear how many lawmakers will be heading to Washington. Some members of Trump’s team have “promoted the legally dubious theory that friendly legislators could under certain scenarios effectively subvert the popular vote and send their own, pro-Trump delegations to the Electoral College,” notes the Times.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...-to-steal-the-election-install-loyal-electors

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    Make no mistake.

    Trump will never admit defeat. This is totally incompatible with his narcissistic psychopathic personality.

    But will the democratic institutions of this country withstand the attacks of a fascist?

    Because this is an unprecedented situation, and there are still Republican elected officials, terrorized by the reaction of their voters, who dare not publicly denounce the most dangerous POTUS in the history of this country.

     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    produce all of the ballots with all associated verification requirements fulfilled, as prescribed by state law, and have them counted with proper observation as prescribed by state law.
    If Biden gets the votes, he wins. Easy peasy.
    Until then, the "popular vote" is contested.
     
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  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a crime under federal law to change the way the electors are chosen after the election.

    So if state law says electors are chosen by the popular vote in the state that's how it has to be done. Otherwise they are committing a crime
     
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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Trump's plan is to convince some states to replace all electors with Republican supporters and overturn the popular vote on December 14.
     
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    And the sad and very dangerous thing about this is that the Trumpsters will cheer and cheer and cheer this malicious, premeditated criminal act.
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's one thing to encourage faithless electors.

    It's another thing to encourage a state to ignore the popular vote of their people.

    That is abandoning democracy, and is very dangerous. If we abandon democracy then our flag is no longer Worth Fighting for
     
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    Which federal law, specifically?

    What happens if there's a dispute?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what recounts are for.

    George's just had a hand recount and Biden won.
     
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    And what happens if, as in the case of Georgia, there are irregularities during that recount?

     
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    nobody needs replaced if we simply hand count the ballots that satisfy state law. Easy peasy.
     
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    The electoral count act.

    It says laws determining the method of selecting electors shall be made before election day.

    You can't change the method of choosing electors after election day.

    If a state tries to do that Congress can nullify those electors
     
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    violating the same state law that was violated during the original count in the process.
    Equal protection got its nose under the tent. Sit back and relax.
     
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    You take it to court.

    and if the judge says you don't have enough evidence that would substantially affect the election, tough luck

    Today a federal judge appointed by Trump said..... tough luck
     
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    So you are saying that Georgia is part of the evil conspiracy to dethrone King Trump???

    :p
     
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    Ah, a Vanity Fair conspiracy theory the useful latch onto like it is a lifeline.
     
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    Trump is trying to bypass all that with his coup attempt
     
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    Disputes require evidence. Not accepting the results doesn't qualify.
     
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    Not a Trump case. Tough luck.
     
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    But then what? I think he wants it to go to the house to decide and he’ll win there
     
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    You can't change how electors are chosen after the election has taken place.

    If you do that Congress will simply throw your electors out.

    Democracy still has meaning to some people
     
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    So what are you suggesting will happen?
     
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    It only goes to a contingent election if nobody wins 270 electoral votes.

    Biden has 306. Which state do you think is going to commit treason? Georgia? Michigan? PA? Arizona? Nevada?
     
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    Thats why cities were boarding up? They were afraid Trump voters wouldn't like the outcome of the election?

    Lots of Trump voters in majority black D.C. and majority black Philadelphia and majority black Detroit. Lolol

    Save it. Ain't nobody afraid of Trump voters rioting. That's reserved for you and your ilk. Everyone knows it, you're not convincing people any differently.
     
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    Any state that chooses to ignore the popular vote, will have their electors rejected by Congress.

    If there is a contingent election, most states will respect the will of the popular vote of their state.

    Trump may be insane but the rest of us are not
     
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    Michigan does not have sufficient vote count for their votes to matter.
     

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