Trump admits he would have ignored coronavirus even without impeachment

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  1. david gullikson

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    Republicans have been trying to blame impeachment for the federal government's slow response to the coronavirus, but Trump just contradicted them.
    https://americanindependent.com/don...impeachment-republicans-white-house-covid-19/
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    This is obvious, given the rallies and golf, but it is nice for once, to hear Trump tell the truth.

    Everyone cleans up trump language and ideas, and makes all the excuses he could ever want.

    Maybe telling the truth, if he can keep it up, is a better approach. He did take credit though for being so awesome that he was unaffected by the impeachment proceedings.

    This seems akin to lawyers telling the court their client is insane, and thus not guilty of murder, and the client insists he is not insane.

    So those on the right can drop that excuse, given first I believe, by McConnell.
     
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    Trumps - actual- words:

    "I don't think I would have done any better had I not been impeached," Trump said at his daily coronavirus news conference from the White House. "And I think that's a great tribute to something — maybe it's a tribute to me — but I don't think I would've acted any differently, or I don't think I would've acted any faster."

    The headline of the story - and thus, the claim repeated in the title of this topic - has no basis in fact.
     
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    Why do you think McConnell felt the need to make that excuse, if Trump actually did respond awesome to the virus?
     
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    "I don't think I would have done any better had I not been impeached," Trump said at his daily coronavirus news conference from the White House. "And I think that's a great tribute to something — maybe it's a tribute to me — but I don't think I would've acted any differently, or I don't think I would've acted any faster."

    Don't confuse his answer with some kind of confession.

    Trump thinks he's infallible and never apologizes for anything.

    He considers his crisis management to be perfect, he gives himself a 10/10 and accepts no responsibility at all.

    Even when 1000-1500 Americans die every day from the virus, don't expect any admission from him.

    There will never be a mea culpa.

    His psychopathy and narcissism are incurable and when the voters expel him from power in November, he will blame the whole world but himself.
     
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    I'm sorry you don't like the fact the title of this topic has no basis in fact -- but a fact it remains.

    Apparently you didn't actually read the story?
     
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    Indeed - because it isn't, as there need be none.
    It's also not an admission that he would have ignored the Coronavirus even wothough impeachment, as fraudulently claimed in the titie.
     
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    Where did he say he would have ignored it? The headlines of the OP and the article don't match any quotes in the article.

    It would certainly have been more helpful had the Dems not been running down their hoax impeachment in December and January and were paying attention to world events, as the Admin was, and listened to his warnings and the work that was being done, instead their leader, Nancy P literally ripped up the warnings, ignored the work being done, and didn't even get around to noticing it until late January, where they said the President was overrating and xenophobic.
     
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    Because he is talking about the US Congress, not the Executive Branch. Two different branches of Govt all together. Congress was certainly not prepared
     
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    If you create an outrageous lie and repeat it enough...
     
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    Taken straight out of the article. I didn't think I should embellish.
     
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    So, the Republicans in congress cant even handle Trump scrutiny? That is an admission of incompetence.

    Pelosi: "That's an admission by perhaps the president and majority leader cannot handle the job."
    Pelosi to @andersoncooper on Trump/McConnell suggesting impeachment distracted from initial coronavirus response. “That’s an admission by perhaps the president and majority leader cannot handle the job.”



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    But you -should- have actually read it before you posted it, because nothing in it supports the headline.
     
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    Where in the article does he say he'd ignore it?
     
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    Political humor keeps coming. "The president is an insane liar and thats why we waited for him to tell us what to do." Keep em coming!
     
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    Nancy? The lady that was in Chinatown a few weeks ago saying everything was fine? hahah
    The Dems were completely unprepared, and really unaware of what was going on
     
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    here is a timeline that spells it all out.

    From Kellyanne Conway’s husband, George Conway:

    "For Trump supporters, let me make one thing VERY clear!

    For the record NO ONE is blaming the President for the virus. Let me repeat. Coronavirus is not Trump’s fault.
    Here’s a detailed list of what we are blaming him for:

    * Trump declined to use the World Health Organization’s test like other nations. Back in January, over a month before the first Covid19 case, the Chinese posted a new mysterious virus and within a week, Berlin virologists had produced the first diagnostic test. By the end of February, the WHO had shipped out tests to 60 countries. Oh, but not our government. We declined the test even as a temporary bridge until the CDC could create its own test. The question is why? We don’t know but what to look for is which pharmaceutical company eventually manufactures the test and who owns the stock. Keep tuned.

    * In 2018 Trump fired Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossart, whose job was to coordinate a response to global pandemics. He was not replaced.

    * In 2018 Dr. Luciana Borio, the NSC director for medical and bio-defense preparedness left the job. Trump did not replace Dr. Borio.

    * In 2019 the NSC’s Senior Director for Global Health Security and bio-defense, Tim Ziemer, left the position and Trump did not replace the Rear Admiral.

    * Trump shut down the entire Global Health Security and Bio-defense agency. Yes, he did.

    * Amid the explosive worldwide outbreak of the virus Trump proposed a 19% cut to the budget of the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention plus a 10% cut to Public Health Services and a 7% cut to Global Health Services. Those happen to be the organizations that respond to public health threats.

    * In 2018, at Trump’s direction, the CDC stopped funding epidemic prevention activities in 39 out of 49 countries including China.

    * Trump didn’t appoint a doctor to oversee the US response to the pandemic. He appointed Mike Pence.

    * Trump has on multiple occasions sowed doubt about the severity of the virus even using the word hoax at events and rallies. He even did it at an event where the virus was being spread. Trump has put out zero useful information concerning the health risks of the virus.

    * Trump pretended the virus had been contained.

    * Trump left a cruise ship at sea for days, denying them proper hospital care, rather than increase his numbers in America.

    Repeat. We do not blame Trump for the virus. We blame him for gutting the nation’s preparations to deal with it. We blame him for bungling testing and allowing it to spread uninhibited. We blame him for wasting taxpayer money on applause lines at his rallies (like The Wall). We blame him for putting his own political life over American human life. I hope this clears things up."

    The Lincoln Project, a group led by George Conway, released a new video criticizing the president's response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10221765671790654&id=1222099697
     
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    You are apparently unaware that the supposedly crippled CDC and NIH were ahead of the WHO with regard to the Coronavirus.
    The claim that Trump ignored the issue at all is, at best, imaginary, and at worst, an outright lie; your claim that he admitted he ignored it is a fraud.

    December 31, 2019 - Cases of pneumonia detected in Wuhan, China, are first reported to the WHO. During this reported period, the virus is unknown. The cases occur between December 12 and December 29, according to Wuhan Municipal Health.
    January 1, 2020 - Chinese health authorities close the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market after it is discovered that wild animals sold there may be the source of the virus.
    January 5, 2020 - China announces that the unknown pneumonia cases in Wuhan are not SARS or MERS. In a statement, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission says a retrospective probe into the outbreak has been initiated.
    January 7, 2020 - CDC established a COVID-19 Incident Management System
    January 7, 2020 -
    Chinese authorities confirm that they have identified the virus as a novel coronavirus, initially named 2019-nCoV by the WHO.
    January 11, 2020 - The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission announces the first death caused by the coronavirus. A 61-year-old man, exposed to the virus at the seafood market, died on January 9 after respiratory failure caused by severe pneumonia.
    January 13, 2020 - Thai authorities report a case of infection caused by the coronavirus. The infected individual is a Chinese national who had arrived from Wuhan.
    January 16, 2020 - Japanese authorities confirm that a Japanese man who traveled to Wuhan is infected with the virus.
    January 17, 2020 - Chinese health officials confirm that a second person has died in China. The United States responds to the outbreak by implementing screenings for symptoms at airports in San Francisco, New York and Los Angeles.
    January 20, 2020 - CDC activated its Emergency Operations Center to better provide support to the COVID-19 response.
    January 20, 2020 -
    China reports 139 new cases of the sickness, including a third death.
    January 20, 2020 - The National Institutes of Health announces that it is working on a vaccine against the coronavirus. "The NIH is in the process of taking the first steps towards the development of a vaccine," says Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
    January 23, 2020 - At an emergency committee convened by the World Health Organization, the WHO says that the Wuhan coronavirus does not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern.
    January 31, 2020 - The Trump administration announces it will deny entry to foreign nationals who have traveled in China in the last 14 days.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/health/wuhan-coronavirus-timeline-fast-facts/index.html
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/summary.html
     
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    I was gonna read through it all but got to the first point about Trump refusing to use the WHO test....which has been debunked so didn't want to continue to waste my time reading a post from a guy that hates Trump, who started his point by using a massively debunked line

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/biden-trump-wrong-about-who-coronavirus-tests/

    https://khn.org/news/biden-falsely-...oronavirus-test-kits-that-were-never-offered/

    "No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States,” said WHO spokesperson Margaret Harris. “This is consistent with experience since the United States does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic tests because of sufficient domestic capacity.”

    ====it's hard to take anyone seriously when they repeat clearly refuted lies.
     
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    Fixed that for you
    :)
     
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    Yes, thank you for posting that. It is highly accurate. That it is intended for poorer nations, is NOT an indictment of the test, but shows it is priced for such.
     
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    The medical establishment didn’t know what the virus was for several months because China lied. If the doctors didn’t know, how was Trump supposed to know?
     
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    The WHO is China’s PR firm.
     
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    Do you do anything but try to cause division, seriously it seems like your only goal on here. This is a Coran virus board if you want to make everything blue and red go to current events you'll find plenty of your pals that whine about Trump over there daily.
     
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    The reason is that China lied (by omission) about the data leading US healthcare experts to conclude that the COVID virus acted much like SARS. This was explained by Dr. Birx in yesterday’s briefing.
     
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    Yes the fake coup by the left that failed !!
    You guys belong in 1940s Germany
     

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