Trump comes out ahead in Willmar High School mock election

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Romney, nor McCain excited people like Trump does and they drew 60 and 61 million votes. Romney had like one big crowd, Trump has thousands every single time. Did people even keep up with Romney last election? Not to mention, democrats and independents started moving away from obama from '08 to '12, and Hillary carries the same message. What makes you think she'll draw more than 60 million votes?
     
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    I don't agree with you on much but the Oracle of Delphi thing was pretty funny.
     
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    Hope you are right. I just don't see it.
     
  4. Thirty6BelowZero

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    They won't be out in droves either, like 2008 and 2012.
     
  5. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, that means even the rigged polls can't get Hillary above him. That poll probably polled 80% democrats.
     
  6. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just can't convince myself that she's winning so easily when the media overlooks her corruption and jumps on Trump for something like taking an hour off for the ribbon cutting at a hotel he just completed. Too much desperation from the left too, if they were as confident as they pretend to be then Trump would be an afterthought for them and they wouldn't plan violent attacks at his rallies, etc.
     
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    Actually, Hillary is looking to flip Texas now.
     
  8. yardmeat

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    Do you have any examples of MSM polls that intentionally do this? And no, doing a random poll of likely voters where about 5% more of respondents identify themselves as Democrats do Republicans doesn't count.

    Artificially weighting polls to evenly split respondents is ridiculous and lead to blatantly misleading results. The best way to do a poll is to gather random likely voter respondents and see what they have to say, not identify their political affiliation first and poll the two groups evenly. That's like trying to find out if red balloons or blue balloons are more popular and then artificially polling people whose favort color is red and people whose favorite color is blue in equal numbers. The whole point of an election is that supporters aren't going to turn out in equal numbers.
     
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    I agree.
    Nobody should take this election for granted.
     
  10. Thirty6BelowZero

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    I'll be honest, I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic...
     
  11. GeddonM3

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    Congrats you're quoting a totally biased web site. I don't trust extreme left or right news outlets anymore than I do faux polls by the liberal owned media.

    Meanwhile Hillary supporters either too dumb to find their way to a rally or they just really not there because we know progressives are less likely to have a job.

    Meanwhile trump takes in more support than Obama at his rallies. Overlooking that part eh?

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    Meh could be worse, he could be covering up rapes or selling us off to the saudis like a good little Clinton does.
     
  12. GeddonM3

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    Wiki leaks detailed everything. But then again I know you will ignore it now and call them lies. But man I bet
    You were on the bandwagon when they were trashing the bush administration lol.

    There have also been multiple breads about the typical lying left wing media and their sour polls.
     
  13. yardmeat

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    Can you link to what you're talking about?

    O . . . K . . . ?

    Did they link to anything substantiating their case?
     
  14. GeddonM3

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    Sorry, typing from my phone and ever since the update it really likes to make out some fun sentences.

    Anyways I just used the first example that came up because it shows info from the podesta emails .

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...em-playbook-rigging-polls-through-oversamples
     
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    But the idea that this "oversampling" was used by the media in their polling in the way you are describing isn't substantiated by the email.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ump/trump-absurd-claims-podesta-rigged-polls/
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-polling-conspiracy-that-doesnt-exist/505211/
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/24/word-about-polling.html

    The email didn't have anything to do with this election, the "oversampling" you are talking about and the oversampling they are talking about are two different things and, even if they were the same thing, I have to ask again where is your evidence that any of the MSM polls are doing so?
     
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    It's not indoctrination to point at trump and say, "that idiot should be no where near the presidency."
     
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    The purpose of today's polls, especially by the left, is to simply create the outcome they want to achieve . And yes oversampling is a guise used to get that outcome.

    Easily done simply by "randomly" calling areas which have certain voting tendencies. Just because they don't know who they are calling does not mean they do not know exactly where they are calling. I could randomly call people in Alabama, Mississippi , Texas , Ohio , California , and Arizona and get the desired results I want and label it as truth. But it wouldn't be very truthful.

    Not gonna get the same answer in SAN Antonio as you would in Dallas, same goes for San Diego and Berkeley .

    Just gotta know where to call, or simply ignore the information that goes against your desired result. And as much as the MSM is full of (*)(*)(*)(*), you really wanna trust them? They in the business of starting riots and race wars based off feeding the ignorant false information. What's stopping them to do the same here?

    You can ignore Wikileaks on this, as well as the media that is directly involved in the Clinton campaign all you want. Doesn't make you sound any smarter, you are just justifying the problem.
     
  18. The Mello Guy

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    So again your argument is the polls are faked and even if they are proven correct it will just be proof of fraud lol
     
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    When were they proven correct? All I saw is more media BS and the same people falling for
    It.

    Congrats .
     
  20. yardmeat

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    As soon as there is any credible evidence, let me know. I don't make it a habit of buying into extreme conspiracy theories without proof, regardless of which side is pimping them. These polls aren't turning out for my candidate very well either, but I'm not breaking out my tinfoil hat without something compelling.
     
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    Again ignore facts all you want, believe in your government masters lol. No wonder we are doomed, so sad.
     
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    Yes you are ignorant. In the most literal definition of the term. Over-sampling is a necessary technique in statistics when you want to accurately represent the statistical breakdown in a small group.

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    Why is that surprising? That's roughly the percentage of Republicans in the population.

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    Only because Trump is a train wreck and went out of his way to insult Hispanics.
     
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    Sure, when you want to accurately get the outcome you want. Besides, polls mean nothing when you sample from anywhere but swing states, because all others are spoken for for the most part. so no it really cant be accurate when in truth only 20% of the people voting really determine the winner.

    And im not gonna get into a name calling match with you, these mods will accept your insults and ban me considering the extreme bias. But please keep saying all you want, Im sure they don't mind lol.


    Oh stop lying, he didn't insult me or most hispanics. He was talking about the illegals, but of course your liberal spin cycle has to lie about everything and create more faux outrage for their zombie horde to follow.
     
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    Well in 2012 we heard the exact same claims about skewed polls and if anything they were skewed toward Romney. If on nov 9th we see that the polls weren't wrong, will you admit you were wrong or claim conspiracy?
     
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    No conspiracy, Wikileaks showed the extreme media bias. But of course, like a democrat you will ignore since it is not in your favor. Like a zombie, you just keep marching forward despite the proven corruption of your favorite news stations and your political party.

    Party before country, be proud of yourself.
     

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