Trump Considering 'Full Pardon' for Gen. Flynn

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  1. Zorro

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    This is a national stain that can only be cleansed by bringing these dirty corrupt officials to justice.
     
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    No worries

    Once Trump leaves office, Trump (and his Crime Family) will face justice.
     
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    Maria Bartiromo Tweet today:
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    :applause:

    No pardon needed, next problem.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    That would be great. Some people on Twitter, etc., are predicting the General will have some interesting things to say about what he knows regarding corruption in the previous administration.
     
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    He was targeted because he intended to audit the corrupt intel services, and he was a vocal critic of our failed Afghan strategy. News this morning says the FBI withheld exculpatory evidence in the Flynn case, the same dirty cop tactic done in other parts of the Russia hoax investigation.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A pardon is totally unacceptable.

    Flynn never lied in the first place.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I am not very confident that justice will actually be served, but if it is, I will be extatic.
     
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    Explosive Revelations in the Flynn Case: New documents suggest that Flynn ‘was set up by corrupt agents’ who threatened Flynn’s son and made a secret deal with Flynn’s attorneys.

    If true, those corrupt agents, and corrupt attorneys, need to be subjected to worse than National Security Advisor Flynn was, but we’ll be lucky if they lose their jobs.

    ‘Why was the FBI investigating General Flynn?” Was a great question, immediately posed and never satisfactorily answered. That has always been a big problem for the current and former government officials whose actions in the blatantly politicized probes of the Trump campaign and its surrogates are currently under investigation by the Justice Department.

    The question and the lack of a satisfactory answer are at the root of stunning disclosures the Justice Department has just made to Flynn and his legal team.

    Last Friday night in a doc dump, the DOJ provided some Brady material — i.e., exculpatory information that prosecutors are required by law to reveal to defendants they have charged with crimes — that Flynn’s lead lawyer, Sidney Powell, has been demanding for months.

    Finally he has a REAL Legal Representation and Ms. Powell filed on his behalf: The evidence -

    defeats any argument that the interview of Mr. Flynn on January 24, 2017, was material to any “investigation.” The government has deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution — knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.​

    There was no good-faith basis for an investigation of General Flynn. Under federal law, a false statement made to investigators is not actionable unless it is material. That means it must be pertinent to a matter that is properly under investigation. If the FBI did not have a legitimate investigative basis to interview Flynn, then that fact should have been disclosed as exculpatory information. It would have enabled his counsel to argue that any inaccurate statements he made were immaterial.
     
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    The *******s who did this to him should do some hard time.
     
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    His original attorneys were in on it.

    Though Flynn did not believe he was guilty (and though the agents who interviewed him also did not believe he had intentionally misled them) — nevertheless pled guilty to false-statements charges because prosecutors from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s staff threatened him. Flynn was warned that, if he refused to plead guilty, prosecutors would charge his son with a felony for failing to register with the Justice Department as a foreign agent. So-called FARA violation (Foreign Agent Registration Act) is a crime that the DOJ almost never charged before the Mueller investigation, and it had dubious application to Flynn’s son (who only worked for Flynn’s private-intelligence firm).

    The new disclosures demonstrate that Mueller’s prosecutors — specifically Brandon Van Grack, who now runs Justice’s FARA unit — promised Flynn that they would not charge his son if Flynn pled guilty. Worse, the prosecutors coerced Flynn and his counsel to keep this agreement secret. This side deal would not be written into the plea agreement and kept from the court and the public.

    Under federal law, all understandings that are relevant to a guilty plea must be disclosed to the judge. It is a serious ethical breach for government lawyers to fail to reveal such an arrangement as well as a fraud on the court.

    Flynn was originally represented by the very politically connected Washington firm of Covington & Burling. The firm’s performance has already raised questions: They counseled Flynn on his FARA submissions, filing the FARA documents with the DOJ on his behalf; and they also represented him in his plea negotiations with Mueller’s staff, which involved the integrity of these same FARA filings. That’s a conflict of interest, and though the DOJ maintains that Flynn waived it, there is a question about whether such a conflict is waivable. Now comes the claim about a side deal not to prosecute Flynn’s son. If Covington’s lawyers colluded with government lawyers to make such a deal and conceal it from the court, that would raise very serious legal and ethical issues.
     
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    FARA being the Operative Term?

    I think I got it.

    Anyway, a reporter (from OAN) at the presser actually had the gaul to ask Trump if he would allow Flynn back into the Administration.

    Can you imagine that?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    So Joe Biden has been talking with foreign leaders about policies and it is not January 2021 yet and Trump is still President, have you called for him to be charged with Logan Act violations yet?
     
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    If you have concerns about Biden and the Logan Act, then why didn't you start a New Thread?

    Instead of Bumping (NECROING) a thread that hadn't been posted in for 7 Months?
     
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    I DID but that certainly does not precluding me calling out those who were demanding charges against the Trump administration does it.
     
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    He CONFESSED and plead guilty in front of two different judges?????
     
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    I might have, had Flynn been charged (and Biden been PROVED to be actively counteracting current administration policy)

    2 hurdles there, one probably insurmountable...

    Balls in your court on the 2nd...

    EDIT - Alternatively, if you can get Biden on the record as lying (to the Feds) about his foreign communications, that's a route you can pursue...
     
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    To be technically correct, the outgoing administration is done on January 20, but a new administration might or might not start on January 20.
     
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    Fair point... although I don't think there has ever been a gap, nor will there be next Jan...
     
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    One thing I find interesting is that while we are all waiting to see what Sullivan is going to do about Flynn, Sullivan is too busy working on Trump-created USPS issues (with probably a hand in the bogus election claims) to finalize his role in that case...

    That, my friends, is the definition of irony...
     
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    UNDER DURESS WITH EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE WITHHELD.......A PROSECUTOR WHO REFUSES TO PROSECUTE ON THOSE GROUNDS............TOSS IT.

    What exactly is it you think this judge can rule? He can't MAKE the DOJ prosecute Flynn and both parties have withdrawn from the plea deal the judge can't force them back into it.
     
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    Flynn was the NSA for the OFFICIAL transition team. Biden is not the OFFICIAL President elect nor does an OFFICIAL transition team exist and Biden was telling them what his policies will be and how different from the current administration's. It is EXACTLY what you and the left and the Dems and the MSM were trying to charge as a violation of the Logan Act. So explain why the FBI should not be listening in on their calls, get a FISA warrant and the DOJ charge him with violations the Logan Act. Perhaps you missed Sen. Cruz grilling McCabe this week about how they used that to justify their investigation into the Trump campaign an OFFICIAL TRANSITION Team but why not Biden with his interfering with the foreign policy of the United States as a PRIVATE CITIZEN.
     
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    Careful there, you are starting to swerve into full CAPS mode, like Der Fuerher....

    We'll remember that for our reeducation camps...

    P.S. You don't have the FIRST CLUE (ooops) what Biden was talking about with these people...
     
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