Trump couldn't save these jobs at Carrier. Tomorrow is the end of the line.

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  1. Guno

    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sad that these people were conned , now that trump is in it's FU time trumpsters



    It's the first round of cuts at the plant, which last year epitomized the working-class grievances that Trump swore to fix.

    Four salaried employees will be laid off in September, and another 290 jobs will be eliminated in late December, three days before the Christmas holiday,according to records filed by Carrier with the state of Indiana.


    http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/19/news/economy/carrier-layoffs-indiana/index.html
     
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    And the president has made nary a tweet about this.
    I wonder why?
     
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    Looks like someone from the Deep State got to them.
     
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    vanityofvanitys Well-Known Member

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    Maybe if his party cared as much about saving American jobs as he did, things might be different. But Republicans by and large are stonewalling all of Trump's efforts and I am not sure why? ---- maybe because they are career politicians with a pampered lifestyle and they do not want to rock the boat in any way? In other words, cowards and scoundrels.

    Maybe if the despicable left wing of this nation cared about American jobs things might be different here, too?

    Maybe if the toxic evil mainstream media cared about American jobs things might be different here, too?

    Maybe if there were less like you and more like Christians our nation would not be so totally lost and morally debauched, and saving people more than destroying people.
     
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    "It's been a crazy journey," said TJ Bray, an insulator at Carrier whose job was saved. Bray, 33, is also a spokesman for the local union that represents the factory's employees.

    "We're definitely glad that some of the jobs are definitely staying, and we're just still very disappointed that we're still losing a lot of folks," Bray said.
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Trump has good intentions, but he can't do everything by himself. It would be nice if more people would put some salve on their hurting derrières and helped him.
     
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    KMA trump has good intentions. He's nothing but a bully con man whose running out of string.
     
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    You mean he won the election and you need some salve?
     
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    No, I mean he won the election and at the rate he's going he's pretty well establishing he's not mentally capable of performing the duties of the POTUS and soon will be impeached. That's what I mean by "he's running out of string".
     
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    Let's bet that he will not be impeached, by which I mean actually convicted by the Senate and removed from office. (Anyone in the House can file articles of impeachment, and they already have been.)

    Whoever loses the bet will have to post this, in all caps: "I AM SORRY FOR EVER HAVING DOUBTED THE WISDOM AND PRESCIENCE OF POSTER [LE CHEF or CAPT NICE]. IMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT HE IS THE GREATEST POSTER ... OF ALL TIME!!!"

    Deal?
     
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    Which is still more than the zero jobs the Obama administration saved. He didn't care to even try.
     
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    Deal. I'll be sure to remind you.
     
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    I guess it is still more profitable to manufacture in Mexico. If we could just send unions and obamacare to mexico, jobs will come back!
     
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    His big answer was to extend "unemployment".
     
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    The Carrier CEO's know with all of the obstructionism on the left against President Trump, Carrier can fire as many people they want.

    Blame the Democrats who can't except that Crooked Hillary lost.
     
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    Reality, the unskilled rube jobs are going away and are not coming back

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonc...-coming-back-they-never-existed/#798e9c307161

    http://www.salon.com/2017/01/11/sor...-coming-back-because-they-dont-exist-anymore/

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/30/ipho...trump-cant-bring-manufacturing-jobs-back.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/manufacturing-jobs-erie-pennsylvania-redefining-hope/

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/24/investing/trump-coal-epa-regulation/index.html







    Trump really gulled the rubes
     
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    The attitude reflected in your post is half the problem. In the minds of present-day financial elites in the US, ordinary people and their legitimate needs as part of a full economy do not matter--hence it is perfectly fine to devise business strategies that leave them out. Do you really believe the population of the US should eventually consist of a few very affluent groups and their servants, and no one else? How safe would that actually make you, with what is going on in the world?
     
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    Maybe they can get jobs building the Wall....
    Oh, wait...

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    Donald Trump wants to bring jobs back to America — and some foreign workers to fill them.

    Trump is looking to hire 78 servers, housekeepers, and cooks for his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach and the nearby Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, according to Federal labor records.

    As he has for years, the Republican presidential nominee filed this month to import foreign workers for the jobs instead of hiring Americans, Buzzfeed Newsfirst reported Wednesday.

    Department of Labor records show Trump has sought H-2 visas for hundreds of foreigners to fill temporary positions at the two properties in recent years."

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...lubs-hiring-foreign-workers-article-1.2729433
     
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    Trump may know a lot of things about business, but he clearly doesn't understand manufacturing at all. There is nothing he could have realistically done here
     
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    I think this is one of the problems with Trump. Just like him saying,"Nobody knew how complicated health care is."

    He seems to think every thing is simple and problems exist because everyone else is too stupid to figure out a solution.
     
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    Just curious what is Trump's plan to save American jobs and get manufacturers to start opening plants in the US?

    Who is blocking his NAFTA initiative? Democrats are actually wanting to rewrite some of it and it is something they just may support. Republicans are not blocking it either. This is actually something we will not see voted on based on party lines.

    What Trump seems to want NAFTA to be more like the TPP. Which he killed during the first week of office saying something along the lines it was disastrous.

    If the President does not get support on his trade initiative it will be the result of it being too similar to the TPP. Which Congressmen on both sides of the aisle have issues with.
     
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    And what has he actually done himself? This post was about one of the first and only things he has done on his own, remember when he said he was the only one who could fix us? The first thing he did on his own as an acclaimed deal maker has been a cheap generic band aid on a cut to the jugular. What he gave them financially didn't change anything. And remember how much he touted, ahem tweeted about this amazing accomplishment? Haven't heard another word about those "saved 1000 jobs" from Carrier. This story has been out there for months, and yet no other mention of his self proclaimed great accomplishment. If he was actually doing something people might help, but he's acting like a true ceo by letting everyone else do the work. As a true ceo he takes credit for their accomplishments and places the blame on everyone but himself. Because of him, it's America who needs the salve.
     
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    He implemented his travel ban and beat back leftist assailants screaming in the streets and even in the federal court of appeals. His win at the Supreme Court was unanimous. Think about that.

    He has also restored morale among the border patrol mostly on his own. Unlike providing healthcare for all, securing the border is an essential function of government.

    He has established warm relations with the French by dint of his personality and appreciation for their history and traditions.

    He has announced a clear and unapologetic philosophy of traditional, family first conservativism at his speech in Poland, to very warm applause.

    But again, even if he had done nothing on his own, I'd still say it's early in his administration, and everyone needs help steering the ship of state. Are you helping?
     
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    Trump is no longer in control of his businesses now that he is President.
     

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