Trump defends Jan. 6 rioters' 'hang Mike Pence' chant in new audio

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    It never ends.

    They aren't traitors because they haven't been accused of treason, but if they had been accused, they would have been victims of a purely political vendetta.

    Like Bannon and Meadows....

    In the end, you only use legal justification when it sets your political agenda.
     
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  2. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    None that I am aware of.

    Is that a yes? Do you support what those idiot traitors did?

    I do not support anybody acting violent and destroying property or taking someone's life. And just to be clear, this includes BLM, Antifa, traitorous trumpists......all of them are ****ing dipshits.
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    I have fully expressed my opinions about what the people who engaged in criminal acts did, why when you admit no one was charged with treason do you call them traitors?
     
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    The were just call traitors by Walter so go tell him not me.
     
  5. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Trying to prevent the people that represent us from certifying the free and fair elections that took place in all 50 States simply because their messiah got his ass kicked is good enough for me to call them traitorous dipshits. It's not my fault that each and every one of them have the mental capacity of a dimwitted ****stick.
     
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    Yes, AND the BLM and antifa thug criminals. Do you agree?
     
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  7. Hey Now

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    Don't need to address your post, it is nonsensical per the norm. Your judgement of relevance maybe be dodgy.
     
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    No I don't agree.
     
  9. balancing act

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    Sorry to butt in, but thought this would be of assistance:
    https://www.britannica.com/event/Bush-v-Gore/Majority-opinion
    The Gore/Bush election in Florida was a cluster____. Hanging chads, pregnant chads, butterflies, you name it, it was a mess.
    Honestly, with only around 350 votes difference out of 10's of millions, no one knows for sure who won Florida in that election.
    Note that Gore did concede on Dec. 13th, and didn't continue the debate afterwards.
     
  10. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    To this day he and Dems claim he won. Gore made in a cluster_____ with his bogus claims. The hanging chads and pregnant chads etc were all summarily dismissed in the court but Gore continued to fight until ALL legal challenges had been exhausted even his attempts to get the local officials and FSC to violate the Florida election law. ALL the subsequent recounts and analysis showed Bush won.

    From yesterday

    Al Gore Wasn’t ‘A Man’ about Losing

    Federal senior district judge Reggie Walton contends that Al Gore, unlike Donald Trump, was “a man” and “walked away” from the 2000 presidential election after losing. That’s not how I remember it. I remember Gore setting a destructive precedent, attacking the integrity of the system and then dragging the country through an unnecessarily divisive legal battle. Gore “walked away” only after the Supreme Court deprived him of any other legal path to try to claim Florida.

    Like Trump and Hillary Clinton, Gore has never, as far as I can tell, definitively accepted his loss. The well-worn myth that the 2000 election was “stolen” from Gore is, in fact, still quite popular among conspiracy theorists on the left. When confronted with his past comments on the topic, Terry McAuliffe (who thought the 2004 election also was stolen) says that he wished “the United States Supreme Court had let them finish counting the votes” in 2000.

    “They” did finish counting the votes. Bush won, and then Gore demanded selective recounts in the most heavily Democratic counties — without offering any genuine cause for the recount other than its being close. Democrats soon settled on the “hanging or dimpled chad” hysteria, and the media went about uncovering confused voters who made contentions that could never be verified. Gore’s lawyer Mark Herron also instructed
    Democratic recount observers to challenge Republican-heavy military overseas absentee ballots. (Democrats would later pretend this memo was overblown. But Ron Klain, the Gore campaign’s general counsel, led the charge in trying to exclude military votes. “The idea that people were going to vote after the election and have those votes count,” he
    said, “that’s a pretty irregular idea.”)....
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/al-gore-wasnt-a-man-about-losing/
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    False again as it directly addressed a statement by Ark

    By LEGAL means under election law and what he believed, rightly or wrongly, constitution means and to engage in a peaceful protest. Not overturning the government, not overturning democracy. And every election cycle candidates challenge elections and it does NOT necessitate violence. Remember Florida 2000, I don't recall Gore engaging in violence in his attempt to overturn democracy and an election.

    So again a dodge on your part since you choose to inject yourself into the discussion and now refuse to respond to it.
     
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    So contesting an election certification is treason?
     
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    Interesting take, but one person's opinion, written for a conservative audience.
    Did you read the link I posted? There is a pretty fair analyses of the event. Gore did contest the election, but the re-count was actually triggered by Florida state law automatically as it was under .5% difference.
    I suppose bringing up the 2000 election has some relevance in a discussion about the 2020 election, but Trump has gone way farther than the legal system to try and reverse the 2020 election, and to this day has still not conceded.
    You don't care and obviously will support his behavior. Go ahead and support a scumbag for president again. He will not win again.
     
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    It is your contention that the traitors storming the Capitol were just simply "contesting" the election?

    LOL, wow.
     
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    There are no thug animals in antifa and people who riot in the name of BLM?
     
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    Yes contesting, protesting. You have evidence of something else?
     
  17. WalterSobchak

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    Do you support brain dead idiots storming the Capitol each time the idols they voted for lose elections? Do you also support the losers lying to their dipshit, brain dead traitors about the elections in an effort to get them frothing at the mouth and angry enough to break into the Capitol all in the name of their beloved messiah?
     
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    Why not? You support BLM and antifa thug animals?
     
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    There was no attempted insurrection.

    Its a nonsense democrat narrative.

    it was a mostly peaceful protest.
     
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    At least BLM protests are over legit reasons, unlike the 1/6 insurrectionists.
     
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    Protests? Who mentioned protests? We're talking about RIOTS!
     
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    I have been prefectly clear I don't supporet ANY protest or riots IN the Capital where they do not belong and those who engage in those acts should be prosecuted. How about you? I support PEACEFUL rally's as was the Trump rally and protest OUTSIDE the capital. How about you?
     
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    That justifies violence? Who has been charged with insurrection and please be specific. How many people?
     
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    I have stated numerous times that I despise acts of violence from anyone. I don't care if you're left, right, man, woman, black, white. If you commit an act of violence, then you deserve whatever consequences come with your actions. This is my stance towards the dipshits that Kyle R shot dead and this is also my stance on Babbitt. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
     
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    You would have been OK then if security had killed this girl?

    upload_2021-11-28_12-40-50.png

    And the vast majority of the persons arrested for Jan. 6 were not arrested for violent acts, just simple trespass and interfering with an official proceeding like the Kavanaugh protesters. Why didn't the FBI go after them and the DOJ prosecute them with the same fervor and should they in the future?
     

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