Trump fires back at criticism of Putin press conference

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  1. ThorInc

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    Are you moving to Russia?
     
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    So why didn't Trump show up in the Panama papers with the Russians? They were able to just hide that and not anything else, Right? Just their dealings with Trump, huh? :laughing:
     
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    AMERICA FIRST, DENOUNCE PUTIN RESPECT OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WHO WORK TO PROTECT AMERICA.

    AMERICA FIRST!

    AMERICA FIRST!
     
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    No but I hope Anti American partisans like you do.
     
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    Are you sure? Russia welcomes Trump "supporters".
     
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    Trump's like Lucy and the football.
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    He just changed his mind again yesterday.
    He just couldn't bring himself to say it in front of Putin.
    Wonder why that is?
     
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    so says the one putting putin above us intelligence.
     
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    I am not a Trump supporter .. and never have been. I rail against him on a daily basis. Just because someone does not engage in blind partisan idiocy - does not mean they favor that side.

    Do you have an argument ? because all you have done so far is name-call and demonize the messenger.
     
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    I have done no such thing. Don't blame me that you have yet to figure out that our intelligence agencies are a propaganda machine of the Establishment.

    Do you a coherent argument ? something other than name calling fallacious nonsense and demonization.
     
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    Argument? Why did you want to move to Russia in the first place if you don't support Trump or at the least, keep telling yourself that? Are you a Putin fan then?
     
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    post #8 of this thread.
     
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    What about Post 8 ... rather than address the questions posed .. all you have done is name call and demonize and spouted fallacy .. none of which shows that any of my claims are false.
     
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    You believe Putin & Trump over the IC? Why?
     
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    Why are you creating a big straw man ? I never stated that I wanted to move to Russia.
     
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    I did not say I believed Putin or Trump over the IC. Regardless - the fact of the matter is that neither of those three are trustworthy in relation to foreign policy.

    The IC is a propaganda tool of the Establishment. I get that average Joe might be surprised to hear this but, you have been on this site for a long time. Long enough to know this - either that or you are in denial land.
     
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    But you are siding with RU propaganda over America's IC hence you are susceptible to propaganda conspiracies. The IC is full of patriots (this is a fact)........the kryptonite to fake news.
    You may want to reread your post #8 and ask yourself what you were/are actually saying?
     
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    oh yeah, the establishment. that said, are you that naive to think putin doesnt have his own, establishment, and if do believe he does, how are qualifying his is the same as the us.
     
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    The IC is a propaganda machine of the State. And that is a demonstrable fact. This does not mean that there are not patriots working in the IC ... many have tried to bring the crimes of Gov't and these agencies out .. and they are persecuted for doing so.

    You are the one drinking the propaganda kool aid. You can not even address my comments with anything other than name calling, fallacy and other nonsense not related to my comments.
     
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    But Russia did run a social media campaign to support Trump and fight anytime one of Trump's many faults were pointed out. They also stole DNC emails and handed them off to Wikileaks. Finally we have evidence that they hacked into voter systems for some nefarious purpose.

    Yes, Hillary was a bad candidate. Truly a horrible campaigner. Her image, fair or unfair, was very divisive.

    That doesn't excuse anyone for voting from Trump like you seem to be doing.
     
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    Given your first sentence, RU propaganda on steroids, the rest of your post supports what you said in #8, you believe the Putin/Trump over American patriots. This is the kind of "mind set" RU propaganda wants and controls.
     
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    Putin also clearly stated that he wanted Trump to win the 2016 election.........question is why? ;)
     
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    Of course Putin has his own establishment. It is not Putin's Establishment that is messing with individual liberty in the US and turning this nation into a quazi totalitarian police state.

    It is not Putin who is the big threat to our electoral process .. obsessing about Putin is like obsessing about a rain drop in the midst of a hurricane.

    Do you have anything other than fallacy (strawman in this case) and name calling ?

    Answer the question:

    How did the facebook ads telling the Truth harm our democratic process. For example - a pic of Bernie Sanders with the caption "the Clinton foundation is a problem"

    How did the voter knowing the truth about Hillary prior to voting "HARM" our democratic process. Emails that ... according to testimony given in the Stozok hearing were hacked by a foreign entity other than Russia btw.

    How what the DNC/Hillary did to Bernie sanders - NOT harmful to our democratic process in a way far larger than some facebook ads (even if these ads were propaganda which they were not .. they were the Truth).

    How is the fact that our MSM - which is owned by international financiers who dictate content and do stuff like this - not harmful to our democratic process - far more than some facebook ads which are telling the truth?

    https://alethonews.com/2018/04/23/msnbc-where-journalism-goes-to-die/

    How is the fact that, in 2013, it became legal for our intelligence agencies to create and distribute propaganda (as opposed to the truth) and disseminate this propaganda on US citizens NOT harmful to our electoral process far more than anything Putin could do ?
     
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    Quit making up nonsense and answer the questions in post 123.
     
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    Your posts have digressed to distraction questions (straw....man weak reaches) after post #8 was exposed for what it is, believing RU propaganda over IC American patriots. Carry on with the dodges if that's necessary for you....
     
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