Trump found guilty of falsifying business records in hush money scheme

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Do you agree with the verdict on Trump being convicted?

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Don't care. Trump's policies are far better for me and those who want to maintain our constitutional republic than Joetato and the policies his hard core collectivist handlers want him to push
     
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    Scum like Trump have no peers: he's uniquely crooked and besides you wouldn't want jurors as dishonest and criminal on a jury.
     
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    So your saying that the “flag of convenience” is because dems voted for honest and honorable candidates ?
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your comparison of Sore Loser Trump to Hillary is disingenuous. Hillary conceded the night of the election. Trump didn’t, and instead organized a polarizing “Stop the Steal” rally, which resulted in an insurrection and 9 deaths. And he watched it all unfold on TV - yeah - just like Hillary:(
     
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    you still haven't given me or anyone who supports border integrity, less class warfare, gun owners rights, law enforcement, etc a reason to vote for Joetato and his corrupt progressive globalist handlers
     
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    don't care. Trump's policies are far better for people such as me, than Joetato's . I despise the progressive woke leftwing authoritarian nonsense that the Democrat party currently pushes
     
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    Like Bill Clinton and Obama over Dole and McCain? now that's a gut buster.
     
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    Trump has NO policies other than Trump-first. Of course he’ll exercise a lot of pardons similar the Brannon pardon - you know the guy who was convicted of embezzling border wall donation funds from contributing Republicans.
     
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    Opinion noted and rejected. I am waiting for you and other gun banners to tell me why Biden is better for us who oppose your gun banning agendas
     
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    Typical deflection to your one-track-mind guns. Dare I say Off-topic.
     
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    I keep being told by the Talibiden faithful why Joetato is a better choice for everyone He's not.
     
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    So in the end it's what is better for YOU, not what is better for the country. Got it.
     
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    Ok, then tell us why Clinton and Obama were bad…be specific…
     
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    I believe what is better for me is far better for the country than the creeping crud of collectivism, open borders, pro criminal Soros judges, wealth confiscating, gender confused policies of Joetato and those of his hard left handlers
     
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    Clinton was a serial abuser of women, Obama admitted he was a coke user. Clinton was a draft dodger, while Dole was a highly decorated hero.
     
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    We have given them to you.

    As you say you reject them. This isn't about showing you what is better about Biden, this about you rejecting those better things in favor of a convicted felon. Adjudicated sexual assaulter, defamer and fraudster. A man whose cognitive abilities are suspect, at BEST. (Continental Army seizing airports during the revolutionary war anyone?). And has a track record of wanting to overturn an election and install himself as leader when he was soundly rejected by "We, the People"

    These things are NOT opinions, these are just the facts and these facts are OK with you as long as you, personally, benefit from a Trump presidency.
     
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    Coke is a personal choice that does not involve harming anyone else. There is no evidence that Obama used coke while President, there is no evidence that he ever used coke again.

    Trump, on the other hand, has admitted to assaulting women, has been adjudicated as a SEXUAL assaulter but all of this is just okey dokey with you.
    Also Trump was also a "draft dodger" and joked about it on the Howard Stern show. McCain WAS a highly decorated hero that Trump said, and I quote, "“He’s not a war her. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
     
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    may have been incorrectly explained .. but don't blame me for your lack of understanding of the "legalese" :)

    I read through the article .. and what you .. nor the author has done .. is managed to come up with the felony crime committed here .. and neither did the Judge in jury instructions .. and you don't convert a misdemeanor to a felony on the basis of an "Arbitrary" crime .. that crime must be specific and felony in nature .. in combination with the initial charge . so if you falsify business record .. label something incorrectly .. no change in the taxes paid .. and in the case of Trumps Lawyer he paid more taxes .. .. and somehow in conjunction with this offense another parking ticked offence was committed .. the fact that there is a second offence attached to the first does not necessarily equal a Felony ... OK - KK -- Right ! Mr. Bush Lawyer :) .. as that is what Democratic Legal Scholars are saying .. as opposed to this bush league partisan opinion piece by someone with some legal credentials.
     
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    You missed my point. when you all claim that character matters, I call BS on that. You vote for the policies you want-just as I do
     
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    It's hypocritical if you claim you don't think you will benefit from a joetato presidency
     
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    There is a canyon wide difference in character when you compare Biden or Obama to Trump. Both Biden and Obama have never cheated on their wives, Trump has cheated on ALL his wives. Neither Biden nor Obama have attempted to overturn an election, Trump did. Neither Biden nor Obama has been convicted of felonies, Trump has.

    To try and compare the character of Biden or Obama to Trump is laughable on the face of it.
     
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    no there isn't. Biden has colluded with his corrupt son, he most likely is a pedophile who molested his own daughter, and he's a serial prevaricator.
     
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    EVIDENCE? None

    Biden, no conviction, no trial, no indictment, no impeachment, no evidence.

    But just keep trying to make the comparison to Trump. Maybe, MAYBE, some day you'll actually believe it.
     
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    He is getting better GDP growth than trump did even though trump pushed for negative interest rates while Biden has 7%+ interest rates.

    Lower unemployment

    Not pushing to treat women as cattle

    Doesn’t brag that he doesn’t care about people, just their votes. Also his administration doesn’t resemble a cult.

    trumps policy would also benefit me more than Biden’s, I made close to 300 grand from direct payments due to trumps half assed enforced ppp pan — but trumps presidency has completely reshaped the political system in this nation for the far worse.

    No revolving door of felons trying to break down each part of the government to enrich themselves and their family.

    But trust me, no one is trying to convince you of anything. Your posts here have made that abundantly clear is impossible even with conflicting information or irrefutable fact.
     
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    Why should I ? Trump supports none of that, he just pays lip service to it. I accept that you and your MAGA buddies are a lost cause for debate and that you don't repeat any facts, just what you are told to repeat by Trump and his sycophants.

    For example, I find it amusing and contradictory that you claim Trump has no peers for the purpose of a trial and at the same time claim you are interested in less class warfare. You claim to support law enforcement yet you are ok with Trump's fraud judgements and felony convictions.
     
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