Trump is a traitor

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Have you accepted that trump is a traitor yet?

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  2. No

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  1. AlphaOmega

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    reported
     
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    Ok so you are prepared to have Donald J Trump executed because you assume he is selling what? Secrets, positions, some equipment......what?
     
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    Yes, to trash US intelligence and say that only intelligent people understand his remarks in Helsinki makes Trump look like a moron and a sell-out. Why is he so intimidated by Putin? Putin is worth $200 Billion . Is that it or does Trump owe the Russians money, or do they know of dirty dealings that would compromise Trump?
     
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    Probably. ;)

    What did the Russians actually do to meddle in the 2016 elections ?

    Zuckerberg (Facebook) sold advertising space to the Russians to post fake news on social media.
    No law against that. The NYT, WaPo, Cnn and MSNBC publishes fake news all of the time.
    Journalism is dead in America today.

    If you remember there were Russian trolls on just about every political forum including the PF back in 2016 and they were being paid for each post they made and for every thread they started.

    But most of the paid trolls during 2016 were being paid by the DNC.

    Forget if it was from Wikileaks or another source ? If you followed the money trail it went from George Soros to crooked Hillary's campaign to the DNC and then paid out to the trolls on social media.
     
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    WHO wants to have Trump executed? Not for being stupid, surely.
     
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    That is the punishment for treason.
     
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    I always enjoy speculation hour too... I recall that Hillary reminded us endlessly that "only intelligent people" understood her. I believe you said as much at the time. Do tell, just now? now this is a problem for you? I find this new energy and vigor in regards to expectations of your leadership being important to you something to be encouraged, but where was this same level of angst even a short year and a half ago? Perhaps this is a "new" muscle you are trying to develop?
     
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    I believe John Brennan mentioned that he felt Trump had committed Treason. That seems to also imply execution. No?
     
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    LOLOL.. Good one.
     
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    Hillary is intelligent.. I just never liked her.. She's a bit of a hawk for my sensibilities and ignorant about the ME.

    I had no idea you were following me so closely... I think you have mistaken me for someone else.
     
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    Hyperbole... God knows Trump indulges daily.. You might cut Brennan some slack.. He has a long history of service.
     
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    Why ignore the observation? You say it's "hypberbole" as if you didn't know, or understand that the consequence of being convicted as a traitor is execution. That isn't "hyperbole", it's a set of facts. Facts based on the historic record. You know, that elusive thing you then refer to in the next sentence of your post that demands that I cut John Brennan slack because you believe he has a "history of service". Sure, are you really sure of who, or whom mr Brennan was in the service of? If as you say above that Hillary was too much of a hawk, how convenient it must be to then turn 180 degrees and then support the service of mr Brennan who is so responsible for so much death, pain, and misery in the Middle East. But, hey, you can change your mind in minutes, right?
     
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    Brennan has been in foreign service since the 1980s.

    Brennan is NOT responsible for death and suffering in the ME.

    Hillary pushed for the bombing of the Aspirin factory in Sudan.. and she's outspoken about the ME which she knows nothing about.. and neither do you.

    Only Trump is far more ignorant than she is.
     
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    Really? Brennan isn't the angle of death from above, leading architect of the Obama Drone assassination program?
     
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    All of the above and more is my guess.
     
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    Now?
     
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    Of the United States.

    Facts? We don need no stinkin facts!

    Sorry but facts don't care about your feelings Ron.
     
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    Why are you talking to yourself? The stuff the alt left does always keeps us laughing.
     
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    Sean Illing
    I’ll ask you straightforwardly: Do you believe the Russian government successfully targeted and compromised Trump?

    Craig Unger
    Yes, absolutely. But let’s go back in time, because I think all of this began as a money-laundering operation with the Russian mafia. It’s well known that Trump likes doing business with gangsters, in part because they pay top dollar and loan money when traditional banks won’t, so it was a win-win for both sides.

    The key point I want to get across in the book is that the Russian mafia is different than the American mafia, and I think a lot of Americans don’t understand this. In Russia, the mafia is essentially a state actor. When I interviewed Gen. Oleg Kalugin, who is a former head of counterintelligence in the KGB and had been Vladimir Putin’s boss at one point, I asked him about the mafia. He said, “Oh, it’s part of the KGB. It’s part of the Russian government.”

    MAGA is the perfect tool for these people. A grade A moron whose narcissism will never allow him to accept that he has been used. That is, not only is he being used by the Russians, but he himself doesn't believe it and probably never will, making him effective indefinitely, until he is no longer in a position to accomplish anything for them. I suppose he could be of service to them for life, though, seeing as how presidents receive intelligence briefings for life if they want them. What would be to stop him from taking those briefings and sharing them, wittingly or otherwise, with his Russian "friends" for years and years to follow?
     
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    No question that supporting Trump is supporting treason. Small wonder why Trump has so many radical anti-USA far right fan boys on this forum.
     
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    He is no such thing. But Yes Kennesdy was. He got away with it in true liberal media order.
     
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    MAGA also brings America closer to Russia by his bringing organized, mafia-style crime into the White House, making our government more like the Russian government, where there is no separation between the mafia and the government (it is all money, power, politics and control).
     
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    So now it's "b-b-but Kennedy!"

    :roll:

    Trump was working with the Russian mafia for more than 30 years. He was profiting from them. They rescued him. They bailed him out. They took him from being $4 billion in debt to becoming a multibillionaire again, and they fueled his political ambitions, starting more than 30 years ago. This means Trump was in bed with the Kremlin as well, whether he knew it or not.
    https://www.vox.com/world/2018/9/12/17764132/trump-fbi-russia-new-york-times-craig-unger
     
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    This article is a great read! I may have to revise my definition of MAGA ever so slightly....

    Sean Illing

    A few minutes ago you referred to Trump as a Russian “asset,” and this circles back to the question of whether Trump was actively working with the Russians or whether he may have just been a useful idiot who didn’t know he’d been potentially compromised.


    Craig Unger

    In the book, I use this term “asset,” and the difference between an “asset” and an “agent” to me is whether or not the person is knowledgeable. And from my point of view, it’s impossible to prove what was in Trump’s mind. I can’t prove that he was actually knowledgeable. At the same time, if he did this kind of money laundering 1,300 times, it’s reasonable to surmise that he was aware of what was happening.

    https://www.vox.com/world/2018/9/12/17764132/trump-fbi-russia-new-york-times-craig-unger

    ... Moscow Asset Governing America. That's iron-clad.
     

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