Trump Pledges $1 Million to Harvey Relief

I like the saying of,

Liberals aren't happy, unless they're unhappy.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/who-is-running-the-trump-campaign.471572/

One of my favorite threads you created. I really like all the predictions you and your friends made in here!

 

Too bad Trump didn't follow in the footsteps of Apple and JP Morgan and donate his money to the Southern Poverty Law Center so they could funnel it to their offshore bank accounts, then he'd be showered in praise!

 

Preliminary notice. It's a legal document that you file with the building owner, building contractor, the construction lender, and the county recorder. you can only claim work and material 20 days prior to the date you file so you should file before you begin. If you don't file, you can't Lien the property, you can't go after the contractors bond if they go belly up, etc. you just lose out.

I'm not in the home improvement field either.

 

And, once again, just more of your unsubstantiated spew. No surprise. No palpable information. No facts. No links. NOTHING.

Trump is not my favorite person in this world, by a long shot. But when I criticize him I cite actual reasons, and I provide a rationale, complete with data, factual indicators, or, when possible, hard facts that I document and provide links to. By contrast, what do you provide? "I hate Trump! I hate Trump. I hate Trump. I hate Trump...." Now, go slink away with your anti-intellectual comrades in the rabid, loonie-toons Left and come back when you have something to allege against Trump that you can back up!

 

Bravo. A top 10 post among what I've seen here.

You actually could have addressed this post to at least a dozen different leftists here. The sad part is that this behavior will not change. It will be either another mindless round of "I hate Trump" or simply slinking into the background for a brief nap. Still, very well articulated. Nice job.

 

I try!

 

Run away! Run away!

 

That's almost certainly one reason Trumpov doesn't want you to see his Income Tax returns.
Virtually No charitable giving.

And how is he giving the "1 million"?
Over 20 years?
In Trump Steaks/Ties?
His own Golf Course rental fees?
1000 nights at 1000 a night in his hotel?
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Perhaps you can explain what you mean by that.

First of all, it was not a prediction. Why you claim it was is beyond me.

The facts in my post were accurate then, and subseqent events have not altered them.

 

Baloney!

Contrary to your false claim, I made no unsubtantiated charges about Trump's fake charitable history. I provided links to documentation of the many times he has made public pledges and never followed through.

I have pointed out that, based on Trump's history, there is little reason to believe that anyone will ever see a dime of this pledge either.

You can't refute any of that, and resorted to attacks in lieu of facts.

 

We will see if this pledge by Trump is any better than all of the others he made. I will build a wall..... I will repeal Obama care and replace it with something better and cheaper....... I will bring back American jobs..I will make America great again...

 

Hold onto your pride until he really does pay on his pledge.

 

Antifa save many folks? How is the Antifa navy doing?

Thoughts on Looters:

Hungry Harvey Victims Have Committed No Crime: Peacefully taking what you need from a supermarket isn’t the same as looting.

Were the reporter’s critics right? Should we conclude that people taking food from an empty store during an emergency are not committing a crime? That’s exactly what we should conclude — they are not lawbreakers — but it’s important that we understand exactly why.

Let’s start by considering our own instincts. If I were trapped and my family was starving, I would grab the food; I suspect most readers would too. Already our instincts tell us, then, that the moral situation in which we find ourselves is different when a disaster has struck. I believe, very deeply, in the importance of strong property rules. In an emergency, however, we should interpret the rules differently.

The problem is familiar to law students. It arises in courses on torts, contracts and (of course) criminal law. A well-known example in the Model Penal Code posits a hiker who, trapped by a blizzard, breaks into a cabin and eats the food to survive. The hiker has taken both food and shelter without the permission of the owner. By choosing to violate a property rule rather than starve to death or die of exposure, the hiker has selected the lesser of two evils. This is one form of the defense known as “necessity,” and is generally considered to mean that there is no crime.

But let’s be clear about why this is so. In the Model Penal Code example, there’s a life-threatening emergency but there’s also something else. When the hiker stumbles upon the cabin, it’s empty. It's impossible for the hiker to negotiate with the owner for the food and shelter that he needs. The same then would be true of the people left hungry in Harvey’s flooding. Key to our conclusion that they’re not looters is that the stores from which they are taking food are unattended — empty.

So now imagine a different case: When the hungry people arrive at the flooded supermarket looking for food, the owner is standing in their path. He is an ornery sort. He listens to their pleas but says no. They demand food anyway. He brandishes a shotgun and says that he will defend his property. If they overpower him and take the food anyway, is the case the same?

Plainly it isn’t. For one thing, they have added assault to the crimes with which they might be charged. Pilfering food when you’re hungry is one thing; injuring someone to get it is another. In other words, the defense of necessity weakens as the crime becomes more serious.

More at the link.

 

Trump also pledged to uphold the Constitution but I will not hold my breath waiting for the POS to do that.

 

Tommy, How much did you give?

 

How many folks did the KKK Navy saved? How about the Neo Nazi?

 

NO, they are stealing food. If they didn't pay for it, it isn't theirs. Not that I wouldn't do the same, but I fully understand the ramification of what I did. You, on the other hand, just made excuses.

 

Well if he doesn't, it would another one, in a long list of stupid statements, on Trump's part.

 

Oh stop. I refuted your claim with the very media outlet you said reported that Trump didn't raise money for veterans.

Yet you continue. It's insanity.

 

I'm merely distinguishing between two different things. Consider the following, do you view these two acts as the same thing or do you see a distinction btw them:

i) In a desperate situation, and empty house is entered, shelter is obtained and food is used. No destruction of property, no running off with the TV set.

ii) Forcing past a reluctant owner and essentially robbing him under the threat of violence.

A law abiding citizen could easily find themselves in scenario i)
A law abiding citizen is never going to commit scenario ii)

 

Trump warms the heart as he calls out the Heroes of the Texas Sized Hurricane, but:

 

It is called a materialman's lien in many states. If you are doing the labor, it is called a mechanic's lien.

 

You, Tommy, made the attacks. You, Tommy, did so without any proof of wrongdoing. You have no factual basis upon which to assert that Donald Trump will not honor his personal pledge to donate one million dollars to the Harvey relief fund. You are making waves in the atmosphere with your mouth. You are making yourself look silly, Tommy... but don't let me stop you....

Tell you what... when, and if, President Trump fails to donate a million dollars to the relief fund as he said he would, I will publicly apologize to you and tell everyone on the Forum that you were right, and I was wrong. But, if President Trump does make good on the million dollars to the relief fund, I EXPECT YOU TO DO THE SAME.... Is that agreeable...? I will TRACK it, and I hope you do, too. One of us is going to look like a damned fool. I wonder who it will be...?

 

Any word on which organizations he has doled the money out to? Have these organizations confirmed Or does he plan to just hand everyone 5% off coupons for their next cart rental at a Trump property?