Trump says the press, not Russia, is the 'real enemy of the people'

I never watch Maddow, but Hannity seems to be going full Glenn Beck. It will be fun when he finally melts down and starts crying on camera.

 

Over 90% of all journalists are liberal. To think they report the news without shading it to the left is absurd.

Independent studies show they report more favorably on liberal politicians & issues than on conservative politicians & issues. The bias is overwhelming.

 

Even if that was true, most business owners and stockshare holders are conservatives. Who do you think is really calling the shots? The employers or employees?

 

According to the independent studies, the news is slanted left. For example, journalists report abortion rights supporters are "rational" and "normal". But those that oppose abortion are "unhinged religious zealots".

 

Who did these "independent" studies?

 

If you look at ratings and profits, Trump, versus pre-Trump, the major news casts and print media were failing in the pre-Trump era.

CNN was dying, the NYT was selling assets faster than a crack whore at Times Square. MSNBC couldn't reinvent it self fast enough.

Then Donald Trump announced he was running for President.

And when it was discovered an audience would respond to the "Trump and the GOP are evil" meme, everything reversed.

As you pointed out, the media is just a manufacturer of a product. Their singular purpose is to sell that product to as many people as possible so they can in turn sell access to those customers to advertisers. Websites need visits, so same principle applies.

All that ushers in what is now referred to as dog whistles and click bait. Create a dog whistle, and get a response, and money flows.

There isn't a media source in the industry that can be viewed as pure news. Doesn't exist. If people want truth, they need to decide what news story interests them, and then start digging.

 

Problem is that, in Trumpworld, "Fake News" is anything Trump doesn't like. For instance, the recent interview with the Sun in which he criticized Teresa May. When it was published he called it "fake news" -- except the Sun recorded the interview.

So do you agree with Trump that the Sun article is "fake news"? Or do you agree that Trump just tried to lie his way out of embarrassment?

 

Many different groups ... liberal, conservative, moderate, etc. One completed by the UCLA School of Journalism is very legitimate.

 

I got curious on the this press vs. Russia. The press, 32% of all Americans trust the press to report the news fully, fairly and accurately. This includes 51% of all democrats, 30% of independents and only 14% of Republicans.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/195542/americans-trust-mass-media-sinks-new-low.aspx

Russia, 15% of all Americans consider Russia either an ally or friendly vs. 66% unfriendly or enemy. Democrats breakdown 11/76, independents 14/61 and Republicans 20/63. Question 2J.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/7hxorevceh/econTabReport.pdf



Russia loses. But 32% siding with the press isn't good. If less than a third of us trust the news we're getting, do we take what is being reported seriously? If we don't trust or believe what is being reported by the media, does that make the media, the press an enemy? Might. Looking at cable news, all three major news networks in my opinion are nothing more than propaganda machines which I trust none of them. Fox for the Pro Trumpers, CNN and MSNBC for the anti trumpers.

Trusting or viewing Russia and the press as enemies, it seems most Americans do or at least don't trust either. One last thing, Trump's judgement. 35% of all Americans say he has good judgement, 50% say bad judgement, question 5.

Personally, I consider Russia to be unfriendly, but not necessarily an enemy. They were an enemy during the cold war. The cold war is over, so unfriendly will do quite nicely. The press/media, I don't trust, but I don't view them as an enemy. I view them as propaganda machines who have taken sides in our political battles instead of just reporting on those political battles.

Does Trump ever think before he spouts off? I really don't think so.

 

Thanks. Since you refuse to link them, are they highly classified and only viewed by those with a secret decoder ring?

 

All good points in your post. We're not at war with Russia, but their over-the-line-actions in the last election should not be tolerated. A strong President, one stronger than Obama or Trump, would have told Putin to knock that crap off or pay the consequences. Instead, we had one President who didn't want to make waves and never defended a red line he set and we have another President who fawns over Putin and could very well be in Putin's pocket for one reason or another. Sad.

I doubt he does. He didn't before the election and, despite staffers who have tried repeatedly to teach him otherwise, he doesn't now.

 

Agreed with most of your post. I don't know how the major media outlets were doing before and after the election, but there's certainly no doubt controversy sells and Trump's election has provided boatloads of it.

 

The people in the media are more damaging to this country than the Russians.

 

It wasn't that long ago that conservatives said "My country, right or wrong". Now they say "Russia is right and America is wrong". Sad.

 

You are a victim of Russian propaganda.

 

Not going to go through the effort again, but I based my comments on doing some digging on ratings in 2014-15, and then in 2016-17. The reversal was dramatic. You might be able to jog your memory a bit by recalling all the changes in Anchors, etc., that were taking place a few years ago.

 

Say something often enough and the gullible will believe it!! Does it not occur to you that the US meddles in Russia's elections fcs? Jesus effing wept!

 

I think it more likely that they want Trump out of the WH then everything to settle back down to what it used to be.

 

I agree. One doesn't have to be an expert on everything to be president to include foreign policy. The trick is to have knowledgeably and experienced people around you whose advice you can trust. Ignoring them and constantly changing them breeds chaos along with eliminating the learning curve of any new president.

 

Would you agree our foreign policy over the last dozen years or so has been anything less than stellar?

Those knowledgeable and experienced people have likely been part of that effort.

Finding someone who is capable of changing the pattern and follow a new course can be challenging, especially when one considers the ego's of those who believe they are the best in the world in their field.

 

Don't be silly.. Democracy dies in Darkness. You want to muzzle the press because they report Trump's idiocy?

 

Nope.. Its seems you are.

 

I do believe we have made some huge mistakes over both the Bush and the Obama administrations. Especially in the middle east and Africa. That we made the situation there much worse than if we had done nothing. Now hindsight is 20/20, we can see the results today but really had no idea what they would be when the action was taken. Context and situation at the time is everything and can explain why certain actions were taken.

Is Trump doing any better? That seems to have a very partisan answer. Republicans say yes, democrats say no. Everything is so polarized these days. As for NATO, once the USSR broke apart, the Warsaw Pact disbanded, it was mission accomplished. It should have gone the same way as CENTO and SEATO went. If Western Europe wanted to keep it, fine, let them. I also think this nation should have abided by the G.H.W. Bush/Gorbachev agreement on the peaceful unification of Germany. That if Gorbachev allowed the peaceful unification of Germany, no NATO expansion further east past Germany. NATO's expansion further east reeks of hegemony in my opinion. That if we abided by the Bush/Gorbachev agreement we still would have friendly relations with Russia, Putin or no Putin. One forgets that Putin was in charge of Russia from 2000-2008, a time when we did have much friendlier relations with him and Russia.

Bottom line I suppose is I don't trust Trump, I don't like him and I'm not comfortable with him being president. Of course had Hillary Clinton won, I would be saying the same thing about her. I was born right after WWII and I have been comfortable with every president up till and not including Trump whether I agreed or disagreed with most of their policies. Trump, I'm not. that makes all the difference.

 

(Conservative doesn't mean STUPID)

Speaking the day after Donald Trump won the presidential election, one of the nation’s leading security and foreign policy experts said, “I think Vladimir Putin had a great night.”

Bruce Riedel, director of the intelligence project at the Washington-based Brookings Institution, said Russia engaged in cyber attacks on Democratic Party sites during the election season and “interfered in our electoral process.” But he added these efforts ultimately did not affect the outcome.

https://news.usni.org/2016/11/10/br...es-concern-trump-views-nato-military-spending

 

Fair enough. I'm a boomer as well, and have never experienced the polarization and encouraged anger that exists today.

For me, our foreign policy has been so warped and corrupt I'm willing to allow the benefit of the doubt. I know that it's better to sit down and talk, than it is to manage from afar for the sole purpose of generating soundbites for the evening news.

With some exceptions, I have little doubt the average citizen n Russia, NK, and the US, has no stomach for war, and just wants to live their lives peacefully. I think it's up to the leaders to live up to that expectation.