Trump strikes a blow for common sense and the rule of law

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  1. Sampson Simpon

    Sampson Simpon Active Member

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    NO, its not, I've even pointed that out in this thread. This is why some of you really need to educate yourself, learn some facts. Because you make comments that are so incorrect. What about people that are born with a vagina and a penis? Or they have a penis or a vagina but internally they have ovaries or testicles. Not so black and white, is it? These are things that actually happen.

    And you can't deny the psychology of these people. Why would they make it up? Why would they want to be ridiculed, mocked, violently attacked, ostricized? Why do so many struggle with this, end up killing themselves over it? YOu really think they chose that? Get real. Just like with homosexuality and claiming it is a choice, if attraction was a choice, there would be a hell of a lot more homosexuals.
     
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    BAHHHHAAAHHA.....SOOOOOOo, RW's are simple minded because they know the difference between male & female??????? Now THAT'S a hoot.
     
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    Why would someone make up being schizophrenic? They wouldn't and I'm not claiming the TG's are making anything up. But they are sick and should be treated.
     
  4. Sampson Simpon

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    They have been doing it for the longest time. And there was no issue. Until right wingers decided they wanted to make a law discriminating against them, for no reason other than to trump up some more fear and ignorance in their base to distract them. Throw them some more red meat since they lost the gay marriage issue.

    Like I said in another thread on this topic, they just want to go to the bathroom and get out, becasue they know they will be mocked, ridiculed, stared at, or worse.

    yet again, the complete lack of empathy from people and complete ignorance of scientific realities are astounding
     
  5. Lesh

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    I remember almost the exact same complaints about handicap ramps back in the 90s. We seem to have worked our way through that adequately
     
  6. RedWolf

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    Scientific reality is if you have a penis, you go to the men's room. If you don't then you go to the women's.

    This was never an issue until a couple of years back with people looking for special treatment.
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so Obama tried to address the issue with extra unisex bathrooms, republicans woudl rather just complain about it
     
  8. perdidochas

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    That wasn't what was tried. In fact, federal judges ruled out extra unisex bathrooms as not being enough of an accomodation. The only accomodation allowed was the TG boy being in the same locker room and shower with girls at the same time.

    Here is what Obama's administration came out with:

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/850986/download
     
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    You don't have a right to pick your gender any more than you have a right to pick your skin color.
     
  10. perdidochas

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    The Obama Justice Department order said that proper accomodation was no separate restrooms unless all were in separate restrooms.
     
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    You realize of course that many if not most trans folk HAVE the equipment you mention
     
  12. Lesh

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    Oh?Like "treating" homosexuals?
     
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    you put an out house out back and the kids line up one by one unless you have a bake sale and can build a 2fer. aint nothin more anal than a republican.
     
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    Yes, it is. Gender IS binary, in the absence of hermaphroditism. You might prefer a sparkly make-believe world constructed of magic and ponies, but nature and science both insist that that's idiotic.

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    Riiiight. Totally unlike the current batch of Progressives and SJWs, who are so very embracing of difference. No fear at all, in the Snowflakes.
     
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    If that 'accommodation' means brainwashing 500 little kids into the belief that they can be any gender they like ... just so that a single God Level hipster-approved pet can live out the symptoms of their mental illness, then it's an absolute (*)(*)(*)(*)ing outrage.
     
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    The underlying hatred for those with a different sexual orientation comes from Moses/Jesus/Mohammad.....the texts of their belief systems says to kill gays, and their followers can't muster the intellectual courage to change those barbaric texts. That makes them immoral, of course.
     
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    If they've had an operation then I don't care. But you go where your plumbing is. It's not difficult.
     
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    The order required them to be able to use the restroom of their identity, not construct extra restrooms. It was budget neutral. It can be interpreted as constitutional via the equal protection clause. You just want conservative schools to impose their values on children.
     
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    Good point - yes, they are somewhat insane it seems.
    Keep in mind that these are the same people that are so immoral that they give their impressionable young children a book, and say it's the best book of all time no less, that says to KILL them if they happen to turn out like their god made them - homosexual, in this example. There are versions of the Bible with the kill gays and gays don't get to heaven parts removed, but Christians by and large are just too uncaring about their own children to adopt those more loving versions of the Bible. They are clearly extremists - putting their religion above the welfare of their children and of humanity.
     
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    Evidently you don't realize that more than 90% of education is funded locally.
     
  21. LiveUninhibited

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    You're proving the point. Why don't you look up androgen insensitivity syndrome. It's not black and white, nor even always psychological.
     
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    His Muslim ban might never be legally allowed by the courts, but it does send a strong moral signal to the world - that Jihad/Sharia will not be tolerated by the civilized people.
    Trump GETS IT that any belief system (Islam, in this case), that, for example, instructs a man to beat his wife (Q4:34), is immoral - and we won't sit idly by while it's followers try to spread it by the sword.
     
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    Good. The federal government has better things to do than dictating bathroom rules to local school districts and communities.

    Common sense wins this time.
     
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    non sequitur
     
  25. FreedomSeeker

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    One of the reasons that whites are racists is because their hero was an avowed racist - he said he had only come to help the Israelites (so he's a racist), and also 'Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.' (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 10:5-6)".
    Hitler was an Aryan racist, Farrakhan is a black racist, and Jesus was an Israelite racist. So it's understandable to see why their followers are such racists (Nazis, Nation of Islam members, and Christians.) Some day they'll love humanity to move beyond those racist "heroes".
     

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