Trump Toadies Are Finally Abandoning Trump

Well, I don't disagree that apparently politicians must be liked for most of the electorate but, IMO, once they are competent, work on behalf of the country as a whole and honor their oath of office, I'm good. I don't need to listen to constant whining, constant attention seeking and self enrichment. And, since Biden was a well known commodity and a decent man, he won.

 

Sleepy doesn't do that very well

 

I think you are wrong. Joe is competent, has and is passing competent legislation for ALL Americans, Joe has competent people in his Admin and when Joe leaves office none of his Admin will be convicted of crimes. AND, Joe did take over a **** show.

 

I am not a republican so that crap doesn't work on me, He doesn't follow the law on the border, student debt, he did nasty job in Afghanistan,and Joe will leave a mess too

 

Sure, if this is what you are required to believe given what out there, that's the beauty of America.

 

The meme issue to Trump toadies to spew is that the President of the United States is predicated upon selective ageism - Their venerated septuagenarian can't even name the President of the United States.

 

That depends upon who you're including as a "candidate".

 

Not to me it doesn't.

 

Good job avoiding any names.

 

I didn't avoid anything. I don't even care who the candidates are. I'll leave that to you.

 

Umm, you're the guy who posted about all of the other great GOP candidates. But you can't name any of them.

My comment is that the GOP wouldn't nominate any of the decent GOP candidates.

 

The only way to preserve liberty is to preserve liberty. We have to work at it. We have to understand that freedom is fragile and that a government that recognizes that we have rights is a very precious thing and we shouldn't throw it away to satisfy things like our own bigotry and hatred of others not exactly like us in all respects.

 

Trump would make a great candidate and he'll get my vote if he's nominated. But someone younger like DeSantis or Noehm would be better. I wish Abbott could win, but the wheelchair would hinder him in a national election.

 

In all sincerity and without malice, this leaves me with more questions than answers.
So could you please tell me what proposals Trump has put out there as to what he would do about inflation and rising interest rates plus market pressures arising from the Ukraine war
And
What else makes you think he would make a good president?

There must be something(s) that he would do that would make you think he would be a successful President.
And I do mean something important, not just his entertainment value.

 

As President, Trump kept my family safe and prosperous. Inflation was 1.6% (asopposed to Biden's 8.6%), there were no new wars with trump, violent crime was under control with trump, gas was abou 42, and the border was secure. That track record alone make Trump a good candidate.

Trump had us "energy independent" (export exceeded imports) and gas was about $2. Biden increased "royalties" (taxes) on oil from federal lands. Trump would go back to the old rates. trump would also encourage fracking (VBiden discourages it), open pipelines and increase drilling license for federal lands. Basically, trump would replace Biden's war on the american oil industry with a "Drill Baby! Drill!" philosophy and we'd actually USE the resources that nature has given us.

Trump would secure our border, reducing illegals crossing over, reducing fentanyl traffic, human traffic and more.

Essentially, Trump would start by undoing all the immigration, border security, energy policies, spending policies and all the rest that Biden enacted in his Executive Orders which have resulted in Bidenflation, Bidenborders, Bidenfuel costs, and all the rest. All these things effect the prosperity and security of my family.

Yeah, i guess we'd be back with Trumps tweets and big mouth... but his tweets and big mouth really have no effect on the prosperity or safety of my family, so I can live with that. Heck, I'm not sure I ever even read any of his tweets.

 

OK
I'll dismiss the first two because they relate to how things were before. The world and reality have moved on. Not even electing Trump will bring that back.
Exports of oil exceeding imports does not create energy independence. It means some oil companies are making a profit. Oil must, by international law, be traded through the markets. This is the problem the UK has and why it cannot just use what it produces. It is also why oil companies in the UK are celebrating having, as one CEO said, more money than they know what to do with and why there will probably be a windfall tax on those profits.
Inflation is the result of the Ukraine war affecting supply, and cheap goods and low interest rates for too many years.
I am surprised you prefer Trump's border policy of separating out children and financing a phenominally expensive wall while covid was on the loose...perhaps you feel keeping people out is better spent than I supporting the poor who are already legally in the country. But that issue is complex and needs a thread of its own.
So far I would not be convinced that Trump has any policies that would deal effectively with your issues.
Got any others?

 

You dismissed the inflation rate under Trump (1.6%) and under Biden (8.6%) as no one's fault. It just happened. Like rain or sunshine. Well, Biden's war on the american oil industry raised the cost of fuel in America and, as a result, everything that needed to be transported to market.
When we export more energy than we import, we are energy independent. That has nothing to do with money, it has to do with gallons of oil going in and out. Gasoline prices to the consumer were lower under Trump. That means that we PAID LESS AT THE PUMP. You find that a BAD thing?
Inflation in the US started before the Ukraine war. It started when Biden caused the price of fuel to go up so everything transported to marketr cost more when it got to the market.
Obama built the cages that illegal immigrant kids were placed in... long before Trump arrived at the scene.
The WALL shrinks to insignificance against the cost of welfare, medical, education and all the rest spent on illegals.
You know more about COVID than I do. I live in Texas where our governor outlawed the China Virus Tyranny from masks to separation to closing schools and businesses. We often joke that our kids will be doctors and astronauts while kids from blue states are still trying to read.

Look at gas prices. Look at wars. Look at inflation. Look at crime. If you think you are better off today than under Trump... ok. But I suggest you get some new glasses.

 

He was one of the worst Presidents in American history. Based upon experience, he would still be a **** President.

 

How did Biden cause those things. You don't get to point out global economic issues and just presume that they're "Biden's fault". Use facts, logic and reason, please.

BTW, a significant portion of Trump's presidency involved a crashed economy. Are we all better off now? Hell, yes. Nice memory.

 

I never saw any "crashed economy" under Trump. Quite the opposite. Can you explain that? With FACTS this time? Inflation rates... GDP... employment stats...

Here's some FACTS:
1.)Biden demonstrated the military incompetence of the USA in Afghanistan and emboldened Putin to invade Ukraine.
2.) Biden increased taxes on oil from federal lands, discouraged fracking, stopped pipelines, and decreased oil drilling licenses on federal lands... and gas prices skyrocketed.
3.) Biden's increase in gas prices sent inflation skyrocketing as everything that had to be moved to market cost more.
4.) Biden's wide open borders allowed fentanyl to stream in. His "Border CZAR" Kamala Harris has NEVER even visited the border.

 

Let's concentrate on oil.
You missed the part where I said

ALL OIL PRODUCED IN A COUNTRY HAS TO BE SOLD IN INTERNATIONAL MARKETS.
IOW you cannot take it out of the ground and sell it at your gas stations before you have to sell it and buy it back in the commodity markets.
Yours is cheaper because you produce more and everyone deals in dollars. Which is why currencies are pegged to the dollar. And why everyone compares their currency to yours. For example the less valuable the currency, the more expensive it is for that country to buy oil .
You have to sell your oil to the highest bidder and then buy it bajck. If you sell that oil to a country with a weak currency but which is willing to spend a lot of it, you can buy it back at their profit AND YOURS. Because it will cost you less (since their currency is weak) than if you sold it to a strong currency. And theoretically you have made enough profit to buy oil from somewhere else too.
Not multiply this into a market of 140 or so countries all wanting oil as cheaply as possible.
And THEN add in someone(s) who manipulate the markets by changing the flow rate.
IOW you EXPORT ALL your oil and have to buy it back. Some countries buy your oil and if the markets move against you, you may buy back less than you sold. Not often but it can happen. Your energy independence is because in fact dependant on not only the quantity you produce bit also the strength of the dollar
IOW you can afford to outbid other countries AND make profit on what you buy back.
Your inflation rate is not just in oil. It starts in the commodity markets...metals, grains, etc. These are the true simple items where supply and demand feeds into the whole of économies and create supply/demand and therefore price/ inflation issues. The supply of grain and plant based oils have been severely disrupted by the U. war. It took a year for cargo ships to be able to leave Ukranian ports.so there is less grain, oils etc and the price goes up.
Further climate change is severely affecting crop yields, animal feed, fertiliser production and adds to the cost of many many items you buy as finished consumables.
Inflation is not in the hands of the president OTHER THAN he can ask for interest rises, which makes big ticket things like borrowing, investment costs and the national debt cost more so you consume less.
From what I understand, Biden has raised interest rates as much as he can without choking off the demand side too much.

Further with all the above as reality, what has Trump said that would help the problems? What would he do differently?
You can ignore covid. No one is wearing masks anymore except by choice.

As for crime, you need to invest in policing. I am quite clear about that. But it will cost STATES, not Biden's federal system, to provide that training . I guess the federal govt could loan a few dollars to support the extra costs...free or at some rate of interest? And then there would be "why is xxx getting more than yyy" kinds of garbage.
Policing is the responsibility of STATES, not Biden unless it has to do with federal security, customs etc.

If you take into account the realities above what would Trump do? Not what did he do when the world was different. What would he do as it is now?

 

BTW as for reducing production of energy, Biden signed an international promise to cut production.
It had exactly the required effect. You are supposed to use less and cut pollution.

 

I live in Texas. We make oil here. We are building a few new refineries her. One, near me, in the town of Bloomington. Its a multi-billion dollar effort, but when its complete, the oil will come from private lands in Texas, be refined in Texas, and be sold in Texas. It will never cross state borders so it will not be subject to federal regulation. Then the problem is solved.

But, again, gas was about $2 under Trump. It was only when Biden decreased drilling licenses, increased taxes on oil from federal lands, discouraged fracking and clobbered pipelines that gas went up. To say that these radical actions by Biden did not cause US gas prices to go up is so absurd as to defy the imagination. You also say that we export all our oil and buy it back. That is so silly that it sounds like a Kamela comment.

More news... the world is not totally dependent on Ukraine for its success or failure. We make oil here... we also feed ourselves. Ukraine was part of our old enemy the USSR for decades. We got along fine without it from the Russian Revolution to the fall of the USSR. That's a LOOOOOOONG time.

GoreBull Warming! Gees... enough...

On day one of a Trump Presidency it would be the end of Biden's war on the US oil industry and a new policy of DRILL BABY!! DRILL!... that would solve a LOT of our problems.

DEMOCRATS have crime rising in the US. Blue states and cities have all but eliminated cash bail, allowing criminals to roam free. Biden is the head of the Democratic party. He could stop this... but he won't. The whole idea of DEFUNDING the police is a Democrat idea. This must end. By the way, federal funds are often used to fund the police. As long ago as the 1990's, for example, the FCC noticed that local police and firefighters were all using radios that they had bought individually, and many could not communicate with others. The federal government established a list of "common" equipment that would eliminate the problem. If local police and firefighters buy off this list, the federal government will make large grants available to them to pay for it.

 

So we'll breathe freer as we freeze to death and can't get to work? Great...

 

I suppose that depends on how one defines "freedom". On one side of the political aisle we have people that perceive freedom as the relatively unfettered access to the pursuit of opportunity. They believe that freedom is found in the pursuit of individual endeavors to overcome adversity. On the other side we have those that perceive of freedom as the lack of adversity. To those people freedom is only found when there is no want, no need, no suffering. The pursuit of freedom for the former group requires that societal controls of the individual be restrained, moderate when necessary at all. For the latter group freedom can only be found in a society that harshly restricts actions of individuals as the self interest of one person is seen as denying the interests of all others.