Trump wants more indigent babies

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronstar, Jan 22, 2017.

  1. Professor Peabody

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    I agree with the first two, but I never heard Trump say he wanted to make abortion illegal. Got a link?
     
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    Psssst - wrapping the weenie is 99.99% effective against unwanted pregnancy. If you're involved with a dude who insists in having sex without it I can see how you could wind up with child. It's all about how you choose to live your life quit blaming Republicans ffs.
     
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    Birth control is not 100% effective.
     
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    if you have so many babies that you can't afford to feed them, eat the small ones.
     
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    Contrary to what the "establishment" Republicans claim they want, I'm in agreement with the above. Anyone on public assistance should be implanted with Implanon or Nexplanon to continue such funding. Birth control free of charge. Birth control free of charge to anyone who requests it. Anyone on public assistance that has more than one pregnancy gets tubes tied (free) or loses assistance. How about that? I'm completely serious. It would be a choice, not a mandate. But as with all things, personal choices come with a responsibility, and a price.
     
  6. Bowerbird

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    they used multipoint reporting and trending

    However even with "perfect" use a condom only prevents 98% of pregnancies - that is two women out of every 100 will have an unwanted pregnancy

    However "typical" use is as low as 85% which means that typically 15 out of 100 women will become pregnant

    Which just shows how reliable most men are when it comes to being responsible for contraception
     
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    only around 20 bucks
     
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    I think that people who tout abortions should thank tneir mothers that they didn't abort them! Don't you? Is it the baby's fault that the condom was not effective? What about birth control? Or maybe abstinence so that an innocent baby is not killed....
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    I have a better and even cheaper plan - all men at.a young age have to donate sperm - this is kept in a national bank - they are then sterilised (easy procedure done under local as opposed to GA for women). That way IF and WHEN they have the means, ability, and stability to be a good father they can apply to the national bank so that they can then invite a woman to carry thier child.

    No more unwanted pregnancies - no more abortions

    AND no more dead beat dads
     
  10. Bowerbird

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    Has abstinence EVER worked in the history of humanity? I mean that is the method of choice for a lot of Catholics - thier birth rates are down no?

    NO ONE THINKS ABORTION IS THE FIRST CHOICE!!

    What has brought the abortion rates down has been an increase in the AVAILABILTY of reliable contraception.

    So, instead of preaching how about supporting more PP type interventions where contraception is supported and made available
     
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    lol............ Sorry...........this is why Trump is President. We don't care what globalists or other countries think. I offered a simple solution. One that snowflakes wouldn't understand (and some right wing nut jobs, for that matter) :)
     
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    no one is keeping PP from performing abortions and defunding them wont keep them from the ability of performing abortions because no tax money given to them goes towards abortions unless you want to claim other wise
     
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    No it is $60- $100 per injection plus the cost of medical visit because it is not given out without a script

    Many of the women you are blaming for unwanted pregnancy cannot afford this - there has been research paper after research paper showing that if you make contraception free or at least affordable for these woment they will use it and the pregnancy rates drop
     
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    how is defunding planed parenthood keeping them from performing abortions? Is that tax money they receive going towards abortions?
     
  15. Bowerbird

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    No you suggested mandatory invasion of women's rights. A General Anaesthetic is dangerous - even today and forcing women to have an operation against thier will.........
     
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    In my state you can go to any county health clinic and some counties has two and get as many condoms as you can carry out the door for free
     
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    You didn't read (or comprehend). Read again. You can opt to do this or do nothing. But if you don't you get zero in assistance, no 200 dollars, you do not pass go. It is very simple, and a choice. Snowflakes do not like being held accountable to their own choices. Mind you this is for women that are "on the dole". That's what they call it in your country, so I made it simpler for you.
     
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    Absolutely.
     
  19. Bowerbird

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    Condoms when perfectly used 2 out 100 women will get pregnant

    When used "typically" 15 out of 100 will get pregnant

    All of those pregnancies are unwanted and a large proportion of those unwanted pregnancies will be aborted.

    Now let us translate that to a married couple wanting to limit the size of the family for financial reasons - would it be fair to say that they would have sex once a week? That means that over the period of a year there is at least one chance she will fall pregnant - even if they are using condoms "perfectly"
     
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    It would be far less offensive if Planned Parenthood did no abortions. But why fund this anyway? Does the government fund a similar organization devoted to men's health? I don't like corporate welfare, and that's exactly what this is.
     
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    Does not matter - if the woman is faced with letting her children starve or undergoing a general anaesthetic (remember that you are advocating sterilisation on women who have already had at least one child) then is that not forcing her to have a procedure that she would not otherwise choose?

    My way is simpler and cheaper
     
  22. Bowerbird

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    From what I understand no government funding goes toward abortions

    As for men's health - what makes you think they don't

    https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/men

    Tell me TR - why has the maternal mortality rate doubled in your state?

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-health-clinics-funding
     
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    Adoption isn't 100% but the adoption of babies are 100% and the costs and wait times for adoption are heavy and long because of it.
     
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    No. You are requiring babies to be conceived through test tubes. LMAO. And cheaper? I don't think so. Please explain. And while you are at it, please explain what the fee charged to prospective baby mommas would be? Tell us about this sperm bank. Would it be run by the Federal Reserve and be insured? And as for ID, currently hospitals have to mark which limb you being operated on. That being said, I can just see how the mayonnaise jars could be mismarked. Sorry babe, but owning the honey pot has more responsibly than the drone bee. That's the way it is, the way it has been, and the way it will always be(e). :roflol:
     
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    Sorry it seems I might have to give a talk on reproduction 101.
     

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