Trump warns North Korea threats 'will be met with fire and fury'<<MOD WARNING>>

some of the sordid and morbid fantasies that people have, it's really very, very sad.
Are you even human?

 

This make shock the heck out of you, but I respect your opinion. And kudos to you for actually knowing what is in the 25th amendment.

However, this kind of threat of a thermonuclear war (and that is exactly what the President meant) is not how you tame a beast like Kim. Trump didn't do this because he wants to protect America. I personally think he doesn't give a rat's ass about America. He very likely spoke off the cuff because of his ginormous ego and surely in a number of weeks we will read about how ALL of his military upper-ups, you know, the guys with real balls in their pants, all went apoplectic that he said something this unbelievably stupid.

Because as I have already pointed out, Pres. Trump has now put himself into a corner. He has threatened NK with thermonuclear war if they don't halt what they are doing. Last time I looked over the last 12 hours, nothing has changed at all except for verified reports that NK is planning an attack on our territory Guam. So, if they do that and Trump doesn't respond, then he will be a weakling and he cannot stand to be seen that way. So, by doing what he did, he has practically ensured that a thermonuclear war is going to happen.

And the sad part of this is - and is also something I already wrote about here - if NK is now in possession of mini-nukes, then the far greater danger is not a rocket attack from above, but rather, the smuggling of a mini-nuke through one of our many ports of entry. If you have ever read the stats on how much freight is actually scanned at our ports of entry, I think your face would turn ashen. The far greater threat is not from above, it's at land-level.

And just as a parting thought, and congratulations to you for not having written such drivel: I know of no person, neither Liberal nor Conservative, who wants an attack on our homeland. Some Conservatives here have already started listing US cities they consider to be Liberal - the insinuation being that maybe those liberal bastions may be turned to glass. I mean, how sick is that?

Ronald Reagan, whom I consider to be a pretty decent President, would never have responded like this. Republicans will rue the day that Pres. Trump threatened NK in this childish, egoistic, bellicose way. This is not going to end well.

 

Thread title "Trump warns North Korean threats will me met with fire and fury."

I can't imagine Obama or Clinton saying that? You chose the right one for the jarb.

 

Do you have facts to back up your unfounded assertion that "liberals always make the mistake taking everything literal when language is more often an intuitive expression"?

Please, enlighten us.

Otherwise, it's just another worthless insult that does not further debate.

 

That's not what Bill Clinton did and it was not in 1993. Your "facts" are not in order.

 

ONE OF THE BEST POSTINGS OF THE DAY BECAUSE:

the facts can be verified and Trump is on tape as having said this stuff.

 

I was unaware that you have special powers and can speak for all of the Right and about all of the Left....

I mean, this is really kind of sad. And it's not debate.

 

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There is more important stuff to do:


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You seem entirely focused on defaming liberals with blank ad homs right and left. Pot, meet kettle.

 

Pres. Trump made an equally brash and inappropriate nuclear threat yesterday. You do realize this, don't you.

 

Says the guy who thought it would be a good idea to nuke Russia over Ukraine.

 

That was funny.
But I congratulate you for admitting that Trump was once a liberal.
However, please prove that his attitude toward women has changed.

That was a classic bait-and-switch move on your part. Funny, funny, funny, but not really cogent to the debate, nööööö?

Good luck staying focused on the OP.

 

Who the **** cares where they're capable of hitting?
They have nukes, and who can seriously say that they don't have good cause to want to hold on to them for security in a world dominated by bigger nuclear powers who do whatever they want around the world just because they can get away with it?
There is a simple solution.
Very publicly announce to all the world that NK can keep and develop its nukes and that we will respect their sovereignty and never attack them, but the minute they use even a single to attack any of our allies in the world, we will nuke their entire country.
No ifs, ands or buts.
No UN motions.
No measured response.
Nothing but fire and fury coming back at them immediately.
Let them and the whole world know very clearly that this is our position, and then stop the saber rattling and go about our business peacefully and let the NK regime do whatever it wants in their own country. It's not our business.
We have no right to preach to others about nukes, but we can very legitimately tell the world our bottom line and what we will do about it.
I guarantee you that such a definitive statement will focus the minds of any idiots who think they could get away with it, and also encourage the Chinese to use their influence more.
Heck, I'd be happy if the Chinese took NK under their nuclear umbrella and got them to abandon their nukes with the promise that any nuclear attack on NK would be considered a nuclear attack on China.
That would help to focus the minds of all the idiot warmongers on both sides.

 

I actually agree with 99% of this! The only problem I have is, that by 'allowing' NK to get nukes, then the same must be done for other lunatic rogue nations like Iran. And the problem with that is, religious fanatics don't really care about getting nuked and dying. In their minds it's worth it to destroy Israel. In other words, by allowing them to have nukes, they could kill millions of innocent people, then we kill millions of them, etc.

 

Now, that's a pretty solid argument, kudos to you.

What you neglected to write is even in spite of the fact that while the Gen-X H-Bombs are not as dirty in terms of fallout and cloud size RELATIVE TO THE EPICENTER, the actual impact zone (radius) is more than 20-50 times greater than, say, Nagasaki and the explosive force is estimated at 1,000 times more.

Example:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/a-bombs-vs-h-bombs-whats-thedifference/article28030528/

Three very telling graphics:



That's a map of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, btw.
That's a half-ton A- Bomb, like what NK tested in 2006.
The epicenter of the blast (yellow inner circle) is less than one block.

Here is a 10 Kiloton A-bomb like the one that NK tested in 2013.



You can see that the epicenter is considerably larger. It is about 5-6 complete blocks and the outer rings of destruction begin to reach into the suburbs and across the river much more.

Now, here is the radius of an H-Bomb from 1952-1953 (still Ottawa, but much smaller scale, otherwise the bomb blast would not fit into the map).



With this rudimentary H-Bomb, the epicenter alone is the ENTIRE city of Ottawa AND the outlying areas. And what NK possesses, although it is a mini-nuke, is stronger than the H-Bomb from 1953. And what we possess is even stronger than that. Because where fission (A-Bomb) requires size of material, fusion (H-Bomb) does not necessarily need that much more material.

In terms of circumference, between 30-50 times larger than Nagasaki. In terms of destruction, estimated at 1,000 times more.

I don't think people really realize how deadly the H-Bomb is, because it has only been tested at sea as far a I can remember.

BTW, the population of Ottawa proper (not including Gatineau or any suburbs) is 1.25 million people.

So, before people continue screaming LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE and such, I hope they actually read this stuff.

And we haven't each mentioned the radiation poisoning, the destruction of the water table under the blast lines, the damage to techtonic plates if a blast occurs on a fault-line weakzone etc....

It's too easy to scream "nuke 'em"...

Well, take a minute and think about what that really means and forget labels like Liberal or Conservative. How about thinking about human beings instead. And animals. And the ecosystem.

-Stat

 

Indeed. I think you voiced a very strong argument there, one that has hands and feet. Kudos to you.

 

This is completely true. It's not a partisan issue. The second one of those missles fly we are all equals regardless of political affiliation.

If NK launches a Nuclear Warhead, I fear it will forever, and I mean forever, change this world.

 

The Talking Orange Dildo was talking directly to his base when he made the fire and fury remarks. Get real oeople we gave two teenagers mouthing off at each other. One ******* in Korea the other an anus in the US spitting **** trying to impress their domestic base.

 

how has trump handled it, crazy tweets and threatening fire and fury the likes the world has never seen if he make one more threat

like Trump, Kim doesn't reason like that, he will make another threat just to call Trump's bluff, then what? Trump will make a new red line? tweet that Kim is a bad guy?

what happens now when other countries threatening "fire and fury the likes the world has never seen", can you imagine if kim said that, I can... and now we can imagine trump saying something like that

you can't make red lines you can't keep and launching a nuclear first strike over something like kim making another threat is not reason Trump can justify to the world or the American people

 

Thought it was a rhetorical question, Trump should keep his mouth shut and let the real men and adults deal with this diplomatically and not scramble to shore up his base with American lives.

 

If we had a president who had even half a brain cell ticking the way that the Orange Dildo should have responded was in the mold of Ted Roosevelt - " speak softly but carry a big stick". The US Dildo on the other hand was matching hand sizes with the Korean Dildo.

Basically two Dildos talking like competing school yard bullies.

 

As long as there are knee jerk trump haters like we see on this forum and in the news media attacking trump day and night I will keep my criticism of trump private

You rant enough for everyone

 

Thats always true of every president that has to act in his role as commander in chief

 

Ok if you say so

I welcome any liberals who are still thinking rationally after trump won the election

 

General McArthur; what a feeble little liberal snowflake: