"Turkish State":German Turks planning the takeover of Germany's

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  1. litwin

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    its a Turkish nationalistic construction, which means "it was not any genocide "
     
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    Sir i am Greek and the last thing i am willing to defend is Turkish "constructions".
    Germans didn't genocided the Gauls , just because people change names and religions it doesn't mean that they vanish, many of the Ottoman top officers had one Turk parent and one Croatian , Bulgarian , Armenian or Greek ... just look at the list of troops during the siege of Malta .
    We can talk about Anatolia / Asia Minor all week long if you like but the fact is that Turks apart from becoming genetically Europeans and not Asians they didn't remained tribal nomads neither the native Christian nations remained "Byzantine" , it was something new created out of the mix of cultures and people that replaced a fading empire .
     
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    A Turkish state within Germany is never going to happen. Plain and simple. There's already a Turkish state - its called Turkey.
     
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    A Turkish state within Germany? Its never going to happen. Plain and simple. There's already a Turkish state - its called Turkey.
     
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    There's a high probability that Turkish state will want to expand toward Europe. Dont forget Turks threatened Europe to get Vienna . they still boast it.
     
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    There's a high probability that Germans want to take over Italy. They sacked Rome in 1527.
    There's a high probabilty that France wants to take over their southern neighbour. Napoleon sent his troops south to conquer Spain.
    There's a high probabilty that Serbia is going to attack Austria soon. A Serbian terrorist already killed an Austrian future head of state in 1914.
    There's a high probabilty that the French want to expand into Britain (despite the (*)(*)(*)(*)ty food & weather), they proved to be successful in 1066.
    And very soon the US is going to bring communism in Vietnam to a halt, their first attempt wasn't carried out very smartly, so they'll try again.
     
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    Seems like the only people who think we will "takeover" Europe is the people who's still stuck in Middle Ages.
     
  8. litwin

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    any link here?
     
  9. Phil K

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    When the Turks conquered Byzantium in 1453, a christian land, betrayed by the catholic church (Venice and the 4th crusade, which left it weak) the oldest of all christian states was destroyed #
    It was done by treacherous christians stabbing other christians in the back
    Nowadays, the politically correct are doing the same ion Europe, and getting the MPs to dance to their discordant tune.
    Europe has been inundated by muslim immigrants. Muslims have bypassed affluent muslim countries to get to christian countries.
    I have always believed this ISN'T coincidental. Its what muslims and the Turks in particular have been trying to do for centuries.
    Use traitorous christians to help them take over christian lands.
    "Alexa" is possibly a FINE example of these repulsive self-serving, self-righteous, creeps.
     
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    And you're NOT invading Europe and US ?
    The figures say otherwise.
     
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    As I said, the only people who think we will "takeover" Europe are those who are still stuck in the Middle Ages, and you're the second person to prove my words on this thread, judging by post #34.
     
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    http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/anatolian-turks.html the site is not reputable but the links of the article are.

    In the west there is the false idea that Turks took over the land and everyone else vanished but the truth is that only the names have changed .

    @Phil K nice piece but you seem to ignore history , mulsim conquest of Europe highly improve living conditions & economy .
     
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    That's sure Turks in Turkey are mixed nation. Actually to understand this we don't need to look for a link. If you go to black sea regin you can see Ponts who describes themselves as Turkish the same Ponts says they are ethnically Greek in Greece. And only Ponts in Turkey at least more than 5 milion, Also many Kurdish orginated beleives they are ethnically Turkish. It is the same for each community lived under Ottoman Rule.

    My father's willage was an Armenian willage when you talk very old people they explain that in this willage there were not immigration and they heared from their grand parents that many of Armenians changed the religion and many of Christian Turk forced to move country because they are not accepted as Turkish by state. Trnaformed Armenians stayed and accepted as Turkish but Christian Turks are send out of country.

    But I understand a person who even doesn't make a touristic wisit to these lands can't understand this. They follow only the west press and can beleive what they read.
     
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    The growth of muslim immigrant communities has resulted in a whole generation of juvenille delinquents, throwing whole schools into chaos:

    [video=youtube;csOvTKkMBtM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csOvTKkMBtM[/video]

    No doubt germans will discover for themselves the phenomena of "white flight" that is already so familiar in America. German families will not want to put their children in the same setting, they will try to move to other areas, away from the deteriorating schools.
     
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    still no, you are not the indoEuropeans ,

    pro Palestinian liberal bull shi^t , which economy ?
     
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    As a German, I think I can shed some light on this particular incident. First of all, this incident happened six years ago and is, therefore, no longer top news. In the last six years the Rütli-Schule has changed completely, it has been transformed into a different school type for example and the number of social projects has increased significantly. Nowadays the school situation is much better than it used to be.

    Furthermore, the Rütli-Schule is situated in a part of Berlin that is considered to be problematic because of the high unemployment rate, which affects both migrants and Germans alike. There is also the problem of a higher than normal percentage of school dropouts, migrants and Germans are both affected once again. As it was stated in the video you posted, many of the Neukölln teenagers don't have very good future prospects, something which is important when considering the violence. Hence, Berlin Neukölln is a very specific example that is much more complex than you're trying to pass it off as. To say that the immigration of muslim citizens is the problem is way too simplistic. And to try and use this as an example for the whole of Germany is also too simplistic.

    Now, there undeniably are some problems with the integration of immigrants into German society. However, these problems mostly stem from a variety of problems concerning the treatment of immigrants. For the longest time immigrants, especially muslim ones, have been shoved away into certain districts. Now there are muslim communities in some cities that number several thousand inhabitants. The immigrants living there don't actually have to interact with Germans very much anymore. Furthermore, the future prospects and job situations of many immigrants are still very poor a lot of the times. This has to do with the fact that obtaining a right of residence or just a working permit, not too mention a citizenship, takes a ridiculous amount of time in many cases. Sometime families have been sent back to their "home countries" after living in Germany for 15 or more years. And while the process of determining the right of residence is being processed, people are not allowed to work in any way, shape or form. Now how well would you be integrated if you weren't allowed to work for 15 years after emigrating to another country. These are, in my opinion, the biggest problem concerning immigration and integration in Germany. The fact that most immigrants in Germany are muslims has nothing to do with it.

    I hope I managed to give some more information on the whole Rütli thing as well as clarify some of the integration problems which Germany is facing.
     

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