Turns out that the Louisville Bank shooter was a gun control advocate

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well mass shooters certainly help the gun banning movement, so it is possible that some of those suicide/mass murder scumbags are programmed bots for the anti gun movement.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    molon labe
     
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    almost every anti gunner is either dishonest (pretending crime control is their goal) or have a serious case of Karentosis
     
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    No, just give me the Constitution, including the Second Amendment.
     
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    Kind of goes along with those conspiracy theorists
     
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    If you consider anti-gun nutters to be sensible.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    the ones who actually believe Democrat schemes will control crime are brain dead. the ones who push gun bans to help the advance of authoritarian leftist control freaks-what they do is very logical-and evil
     
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    They think they'll have a seat at the table if the Communists ever take total control. Look at Mao's Red Guards. We're seeing the exact same thing in The United States.

    They know they will never get away with this bullshit if we're armed... 210201_r37820.jpg
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    yeah gun control is a disease infecting control freaks, Karens, leftist authoritarians and all those who think that their enemies are white conservative Christian middle to upper middle class males. That's why the abortion forever zealots, trans-fused gender changers, femanazis, environmental extremists, animal rights militants etc are all pushing for gun control
     
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    Certainly there are many within that camp you describe who know their authoritarian collectivist utopia (dystopia for most of us) is impossible with so many guns floating around. Which is really the primary purpose of civilian firearm ownership- self defense from criminals, be they individual criminals or an entire criminal institution. But lets not go off the rails here... the bulk of the anti-gun folks have just been so domesticated and indoctrinated by the relative successes and sheltered safety of western civilization that they can't realistically differentiate between justified violence and crime. They really believe the world could be peaceful and everyone would be nice to eachother if only everyone were passive and submissive. And this largely is a subconscious belief- for the most part they don't even think about such things outside theory and debate.

    I just think its couterproductive to winning hearts and minds by insinuating 'the other side' are all evil maoists. Some are, but they're a minority. Most are just good folks, a bit too invested in going along to get along.
     
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    This is what mentally ill people do, and you'll bend over backwards to defend their right to run around with guns
     
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    You're on that point, but there is no winning their hearts and minds until the Communists come for them, as well. By then it'll be too late.
     
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    I'm defending my own right to 'run around with guns.' The problem is there's no way to objectively differentiate between spree-killers and regular folks until AFTER someone goes a spree-killing.

    ...hopefully it was just lazy overgeneralization (hey, I do it too), but its worth noting that there's no shortage of folks who, like you just did, are happy to equate all the mentally ill with mass murder. Given the already subjective nature of diagnosing mental illness (most of which does not lead to violence, btw), it seems to me great folly to use it as a basis to try to predetermine who is effectively a criminal before any crime has been committed.

    Its not exactly far-fetched to imagine a world where simple opinions and activities that merely stray outside the perception of 'normal' (read- the 51%) can be labelled as 'illness' by the 51%.
     
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    its amusing watching your posts and the contortions in them as you walk a line between defending anti gun nonsense while pretending not to support dem gun control schemes. You push a trojan horse about having a national CCW permit but based on a requirement that you cannot buy a gun before gettin a mental health evaluation-which is a de facto gun ban because 100 million gun owners-or 20 million new gun sales, would end up taking up to three years to schedule that examination-even if it were to last only 30 minutes. (which is the least amount of time for such an evaluation) 10 million hours of time for licensed psychiatric doctors.

    So I have concluded that clearly your position is anti gun no matter how much you protest given your posts almost always attack pro gun advocates and lie about what we support. I support the concept of substantive and procedural due process as our constitution requires., You do not
     
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    numerous gun banners have called the following mental illnesses

    1) hunting

    2) wanting to own a gun for self defense

    3) being an "anti vaccine" advocate

    4) opposing abortion

    5) opposing the dudes competing in girls sports

    6) finding people advocating sex change operations for children disgusting
     
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    And anti-gunners are mentally ill.
     
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    We already have a national CCW permit... its called the 2d Amendment
     
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    or just people who oppose authority or distrust the govt...

    Why Anti-Authoritarians are Diagnosed as Mentally Ill (madinamerica.com)
    Conspiracy theories are a mental health crisis | Mashable
     
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    And I have concluded you are hell bent on arming every insane person, because it gives you a hard on to watch their "work" (mass killings).

    See how you sound when you tell people what they think.

    I must have told you 20-30 times there would be no need to do it for every purchase, but you always come back with your "let me tell you thank you think / let me tell you what you want" nonsense. Its dishonest.

    So, you call me a liar, after you keep telling me what I think, and its never what I actually think.

    And no one is attacking you. Get over the victim complex.
     
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    Only in this case we see how low the anti gun nuts will stoop to forward their unconstitutional agenda.
     
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    The word "nut" is appropriate to describe the shooter since he was in fact mentally ill, and that has been the problem with many mass killings. Keeping guns out of reach of the insane people used to be a thing everyone agreed upon, including the NRA, but now that gun laws are loosening, the consensus is dead. Now the fringe argues the insane should have the right to buy and own guns. They spare no argument to defend that stance.
     
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    And I defend mine, because I own many. There ARE ways to identify mentally unstable people and most are identifies already in childhood. If a parent is too dumb to recognize mental illness in their kids, the teachers can detect it and refer them to a pro.

    I did no such thing. I simply pointed out that many (85%) of mass killers have been individuals who suffered from mental illness. Its a small percentage of all mentally ill people, but a huge percentage of the mass killers.

    You might disagree, but there are people who are unfit to own firearms, and who would be danger to others if they owned guns.

    Its off the charts far fetched. When talking about mentally ill in this context, we are talking about people with detectable brain illness, like schizophrenia, severe bipolar disorder etc

    Having fun making stuff up?
     
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    Don't believe everything you see in the internet. Just saying.....
     
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    The ATF offers what is called a C&R license that allows you to get older firearms through the mail.

    I'd explain more but I'm in the hospital and using my phone.
    I'll provide more information when I get home about C&R licenses then

    Thanks,
     
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    Can you name even one person who has argued that the insane should have guns?
     

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