Ukraine Pulled Ex-Soviet Recon Drones Out Of Storage, Added Bombs And Sent Them Hurtling Toward Russ

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  1. Thedimon

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    I’ve read not long ago that during those drone attacks members of Ukrainian military were nearby correcting the flights of those drones.
    Russia probably has a ton of spies in it by now watching for unusual activities around their nuclear sites.
     
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    I think Russians used up so many S300 missiles to terrorize Ukrainian ground targets that they have huge holes in their air defense now.
     
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    EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL, despite Putin's war on civilians, that NATO will get directly involved, and certainly not into Russian territory. But good for Ukraine, to start taking the fight to Russia, instead of just standing by, while Putin blows their infrastructure back to the stone age. I wonder if there might not be any other, former Russian satellites (outside of NATO), which might have old surplus drones, themselves, they'd be willing to risk quietly selling to Ukraine? Probably though, they'd want to save them, for their own potential use, in the future. Too bad, as this could do wonders, bringing hostilities to a halt-- if not from the opposition to the war, stirred up, among the Russian people, at least because Putin would likely realize what awful P.R. that would be, for his population to see how incapable the military was, at protecting their own homeland.
     
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    There'll be tons of nervous Nellie's....I suspect there'll be more attacks.
     
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    I'm guessing as to whether there's a drone(s) capable of reaching Moscow,seeing as how far these flew.....140 miles from Moscow.

    It would be a PR catastrophe for Dwarfstan if several landed in downtown core and dozens were killed.
     
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    If Ukraine still has the capability, they should hit a missile factory. I recall hearing or reading about one near Moscow.
     
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    And what does the Ukraine missile hitting Poland say about NATO's air defense system?
     
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    How quickly everyone seems to have forgotten Ukraine's missile that landed in Poland killing to innocent people? What does that say about NATO's air defense system?
     
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    This is funny coming from German Chancellor Scholz.

    The risk of nuclear weapons being used in the Ukraine conflict has lessened "for the time being", says German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.


    "Russia has stopped threatening to use nuclear weapons in response to the international community marking a red line," Mr Scholz said.
     
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    This one includes some big news.
    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, December 10

    Click here to read the full report.
    Key Takeaways

    • The Times reported that an unnamed US Defense source stated that the Pentagon is no longer insisting that Ukraine refrain from striking military targets in Russia given the ongoing Russian campaign of systematically destroying Ukrainian critical infrastructure.
    • Russian forces conducted attacks against Ukrainian infrastructure using a higher number of Iranian-made drones than in previous weeks.
    • Putin risks losing support from proxy leaders in Donetsk Oblast due to Russian forces’ failure to push Ukrainian forces out of artillery range of Donetsk City.
    • Russian authorities are increasingly importing Chechen officials and forces to man administrative regimes of occupied areas.
    • Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations toward Svatove, and Russian and Ukrainian forces conducted ground attacks near Kreminna.
    • Russian forces continued attempts to advance toward Bakhmut and in the Avdiivka-Donetsk City area and to defend their positions in western Donetsk Oblast.
    • Russian authorities plan to launch programs in Russia and occupied Ukrainian territories to prepare children for military service.
    • Russian forces in occupied Donetsk Oblast are reportedly commandeering civilian utility equipment to construct defensive structures.
    An unnamed US defense source told The Times that the Pentagon is no longer insisting that Ukraine should not strike military targets within Russia.[1] The source noted that the Pentagon has changed its perspective on this matter following the recent intensification of Russian missile strikes on Ukrainian civilian infrastructure over the last few months and that the Pentagon has become less concerned regarding the risk of escalation, including nuclear escalation, with Russia.[2] The Times suggested that this development is a “green light” for Ukrainian drone strikes on Russian territory.[3] Ukrainian commitments to Western partners previously stipulated that Ukraine had the right to use force to regain all its territory, including territory seized by Russia in 2014.[4] The US has previously not made an effort to prevent Ukraine from striking legitimate military targets located on sovereign Ukrainian territory, and the alleged statement made by the undisclosed US source is an extension of the previous policy. International law allows Ukrainian forces to strike legitimate targets even in Russian territory, especially targets from which Russian forces are launching attacks on Ukrainian civilian infrastructure. . . .

    Ukrainian and Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in the direction of Svatove on December 10. Luhansk Oblast Head Serhiy Haidai stated that Ukrainian forces are getting closer to Svatove.[22] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces unsuccessfully tried to attack the Synkivka-Lyman line (50km northwest of Svatove) and that Russian forces repelled a Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group near Dachne (3km west of Svatove).[23] Another Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces periodically attack in the vicinity of the R-66 highway near Svatove, where they reportedly have had minor tactical success.[24] Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian and Ukrainian forces are engaged in battles near Novoselivske (14km northwest of Svatove) and that Russian forces control most of the settlement.[25] Russian and social media sources claimed that Ukrainian forces struck Svatove and a Russian rear area in Novopskov (68km northeast of Svatove) with HIMARS rockets and heavy artillery.[26] . . .

    Ukrainian and Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in the Kreminna area on December 10. Luhansk Oblast Head Serhiy Haidai stated that Ukrainian forces are also getting closer to Kreminna.[33] The Russian MoD claimed that Russian forces thwarted Ukrainian assaults in the direction of Chervonopopivka (6km northwest of Kreminna) and Dibrova (5km southwest of Kreminna).[34] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces also conducted assaults near Ploshchanka and that fighting between Ukrainian and Russian forces is ongoing along the Makiivka-Chervonopopivka line.[35] . . .

    Ukrainian forces continued strikes against Russian military assets and concentration areas in southern Ukraine on December 10. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that a Ukrainian strike on a Russian concentration area in an unspecified location in Zaporizhia Oblast wounded up to 150 Russian personnel.[58] Ukrainian sources additionally confirmed that Ukrainian forces struck Russian military assets and command posts near Enerhodar, Molochansk, Tokmak, and Berdyansk, as well as a Buk-M3 air defense system near Vesele with western-provided weaponry.[59] . . .
     
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    It's time to unshackle those HIMARS we've been sending them.
     
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