UN; Israel must shelve racist plan.

There are those who claim that Israel is a democracy. Do democracies have racist laws against their own citizens ?
It's claimed , widely, that the Israeli State incorporates ' a democracy for jews '. This belief is most ardently propounded by Israeli citizens who are NOT jewish- some 25% of all Israelis. The imposition of such racist laws is a tool of fascism. Does it follow that Israel is a fascist State ? Yes, it does. Although all Israelis are not fascists themselves their current government is controlled by fascists who are seeking to further entrench their fascist doctrine into Israeli law. This is but one example.

The United Nations demands that its recommendations are implemented. The US of AIPAC, for the open support of world peace and the rule of law, must be seen to support world peace and the rule of law.

 

I wonder what happens to these Eritreans and Sudanis once they get inside Israel.

Are these the ones who are forced into the Israeli prostitution rings as they cross the border.

You can bet that they treat these people just as bad as the Palestinians.
The goyim slaves as they call them.

 

Jonsa, are you there?

 

Why should anybody give a rip what the UN says?

 

I could say the same about America...and I frequently have.

 

Yes Israel is a democracy. No the laws are not racist based. This whole issue is very very far from how a fascist state would operate.

Here's a very interesting paper on the entire issue from the perspective of water rights and the various legal processes going on. Absolutely NONE of the processes would occur in a fascist state.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/cchrp/hr...ter_in_Israel_Working_Paper_with_Exhibits.pdf


Its obvious that you are simply reacting to an incredibly information poor news story in haaretz et.al.

First, as for the UN Human rights committee, I'm sure you'd agree that the following illustrious members are all passionate advocates of Human rights:

Russia, algeria, China, Pakistan, India, columbia, Niger, Turkey Angola, Bangladesh, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, China, Congo, Cuba, Djibouti, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Libya, Malaysia, Mauritania, Mexico, Nigeria, Philippines, Qatar, Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Uganda

SEcond, as for the committees work, the first thing you should look at is the Israeli submission to the committee. there isn't a commie or fascist country ever in history that would submit such a report, nor would they behave as this rather extensive report outlines. (With all kinds of references) sure its a positive spin, but court rulings, budget expenditures etc. are public knowledge)

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cerd/docs/CERD_C_471_Add2_En.doc

Third, just an observation, but given the fact that 9 of 11 resolutions from the committee concerned Israel, and that human rights violations resulting in tens of thousands of deaths are occuring all over the world, could there be a bias and attempt at deflection from say... China's or India's human rights violations or Uganda's or Saudi Arabias or any other member of the committee? Just sayin'.......

As we all know, fascist regimes always let dissenters express themselves as this rather earnest and sincere site will attest:

http://bedouinjewishjustice.blogspot.ca/

Lastly, given the above links and information and the fact that there is ton more easily obtainable, let's take a look at exactly what the committee said:

Kinda of a one sided perspective. Particularly if you read the details of the law and the land disputes surrounding it.

OTOH, I'm Canadian and we have had a horrific record of treatment of indiginous peoples (no doubt a reminant of the British Empire). Our reservation system is somewhat like what is being put forth for the bedouin, forcing them to become sedentary farmers/herders as opposed to semi nomadic. Giving up important aspects of their life and culture. We even had the best of intentions at the time....... didn't work out so well. Its a really tough call for the Bedouins made tougher by the zealous zionists in power right now.

 

' Zealous Zionists ' ? You confuse zeal with fascism ?

 

How are your neighbours Mr. Rourke and Tattoo?

 

Sane Israelis talk straight;

 

I note you also didn't include America in your list-one of the world's finest exponents-and exporters-of human rights abuses.

 

democracy is mob rule so yes it may

 

Majority rule is not ' mob ' rule.

Pipes is , evidently, a misinformed and vicious racist- along with everybody else hailing from the stable of neozionist ' expertise '.

 

Israel will never give up the West Bank and return to pre-1967 borders.

 

Sure it will.

 

Dream on. It'll never happen.

 

Dreams, predictions, logic, the inevitability of the rule of international law- all indicate that it will.

 

thats sane israeli zionist talk.
Or do you think Haaretz editorial staff are anti-zionists?

quick don't get confused now.

 

There are many shades of Zionism. On balance you can observe that Haaretz certainly opposes the neozionist variety. Familiarize yourself with it.

 

Its just that you seem to slip up all the time interchanging zionist and neozionist, when we both know there are substantive differences between the various types. I am not confused about it at all. I even agree with you that the neo-zionists are wrong headed land thieves that would happily transport the WB arabs if they could get away with it.

Maybe you slip up when your tired or maybe you just don't care unless you get called out on it.

 

You speak as if there some form of acceptable ' Zionism ' which is diametrically opposed to the neozionist ********s. Would that be the form of Zionism which ordered and implemented the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in the first place ?

 

Moon you are the one who errs. You seems to despise all things zionist yet claim there is a form of sane Israeli talk. Would that be those insane persons who reject the existence of their country? Would that be sanity in your view?

 

It's hard to understand that there are still people who do not know that there were jews and arabs living in Palestine in relative harmony before the disgusting doctrine of Zionism appeared at all. The presence of Semitic jews in Palestine has naff-all to do with Zionism. They predate it. Zionism is the ethnic cleansing doctrine which has infested Palestine with European immigrants seeking to expel the indigenous populations.
Incidentally, I find ' German ' sycophancy obnoxious.

 

Is too. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for dinner.

 

Don't know about Eritreans and Sudanis, but before the Ethiopians used to get hurried visas into the U.S. The lucky undesirables of the Arab Spring may soon get the same treatment.

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

You can't be any more transparent. there is a post zionism for instance which is diametrically opposed to neozionism.

You are all over the map.
Sane israelis aren't zionists? Israelis for peace aren't zionist? Israelis against discrimination aren't zionists? conscientious objectors to military service aren't zionists? IDF members who refuse to serve in the west bank aren't zionists?

What's it like to have such a hate-on? It must poison your entire world view and taste pretty bitter.